原帖由 hk_ayu 於 2006-8-12 22:28 發表
I would prefer longer working hours/higher pressure in a smart society,
rather than shorter working hours/lower pressure in a society that is dirty, stupid and lack of common sense
LOL... smart society, I wonder what your justifications are, please provide real examples.
I would say the only thing that HK has advantage over the western side of the world is its economic presence, HK is a place for business to make $$, in terms of living environment, social and cultural backgrounds for people, I don't think HK has too many, if close to no advantage.
原帖由 kmb3asv3 於 2006-8-12 20:34 發表
香港亦都唔見得好, 小弟2004年返香港住親戚屋企,
朝朝落街都見到o的人o係窗口度錠垃圾落街
可能係我在香港的生活圈子冇呢d咁o既人
原帖由 hk_ayu 於 2006-8-12 22:40 發表
可能係我在香港的生活圈子冇呢d咁o既人
度度都有不同的人架喇, 不過睇下邊度多優勢些o既o者..
香港的確有自己的優勢, 經濟/科技就已經係好例子.
原帖由 kmb3asv3 於 2006-8-12 20:39 發表
LOL... smart society, I wonder what your justifications are, please provide real examples.
Majority of HK people has better common sense, analysing ability and efficiency
You can't imagine how shocked I was when I first came to Australia.
Saliva reading style, expired food, uncook & cooked food put together,
without washing their hands after squashing insects and touching uncook meat
They are not uneducated people but professionals
BTW, if one can hold both nationality of HK and AU (can we??),
I will probably apply citizenship in AU after graduation
[ 本帖最後由 hk_ayu 於 2006-8-12 21:01 編輯 ]
原帖由 hk_ayu 於 2006-8-12 22:53 發表
Majority of HK people has better common sense, analysing ability and efficiency
You can't imagine how shocked I was when I first came to Australia.
Saliva reading style, expired food, unc ...
哈哈, 咁小弟都明你講乜, 最興就係用手指掂下口水, 跟住掂紙/書角黎揭書,
我都覺得係好唔合衛生, 不過唔知點解真係好多老外都係咁.
However, if I am not mistaken, he's in someone else country wor, if he really thinks they are too dumb and disguisting, then why still go there and learn from them....isn't that so degrading of one's holy self when you are learning from some dumb people/ society?
And I wonder what makes you think you are smarter then most Australian, Arrogant? or Ignorience of oneself?
原帖由 kmb3asv3 於 2006-8-12 21:13 發表
哈哈, 咁小弟都明你講乜, 最興就係用手指掂下口水, 跟住掂紙/書角黎揭書,
我都覺得係好唔合衛生, 不過唔知點解真係好多老外都係咁.
原帖由 art0925 於 2006-8-15 05:30 發表
However, if I am not mistaken, he's in someone else country wor, if he really thinks they are too dumb and disguisting, then why still go there and learn from them....isn't that so degrading of one's holy self when you are learning from some dumb people/ society?
And I wonder what makes you think you are smarter then most Australian, Arrogant? or Ignorience of oneself?
You know there are CE and AL which force a lot students to study aboard.
We have no chioces.
And Australia is the cheapest destination among the three hittest destinations.
haha
Australia is a nation that eat expired/overdue food, don't rinse their dishes and saliva 揭書
This forces me to think that I am smarter than most Australians only on hygenic sense.
I never say Australia is bad in all aspects.
I appreciate their teaching skill and the kindness of people (of course some are racists).
I am also looking forward to enter The University of Melbourne,
which is No.1 in Australia and No.19 in the world, in the coming JAN.
However, I think if you are living studying aboard in a different country then your, then I think you should at least try to assimilate to their society in order to gain from the experience, university knowledge is not enought to deal with everyday aussie/ US, or whatever life.
for example, I've seen recently that alot of new foreign student from HK trying to bring in alot of customs from HK to the school, while that's not bad, but alot of their attitudes also seems to shutting off the American culture (not accepting the US ways of life or working culture, and only thinks that HK ways are good)This is not a healthy trend at all (at least in the Pacific North West, where HKese are not the main Chinese group here)and create alot of problems between teaching staff/ host families (ie, argument/ fights with host familes have increase to about 27%, the highest among other foreign students in our states...if now forces alot of CC to adapt mandatory counsuling/ screening of students from HK for applying host families...), and even neighbors that living next to these student (for example, going home around 2am and sleeping till noon is not a common accepting norm here!!! Also, I've notice recently that cheating incident among HKese student have rose siginificantly, and this basically giving a bad name of all student came from HK.
However, one things I think it's a real problem is that, they cannot even adapte to the mainstream American culture, and because of this, it cost alot of problems (such as being frude, misunderstood, etc...) in fields like insurence, auto, housing, schooling, and legal (in the US, we all have to do research to make decision on alot of these aspect, there are not much consultant for these...)and remember, US is quite different then Canada, in Vancouver/ Toronto, where Chinese has a great representation, alot of these new comers/ students can continue their ways of live, but in US, if you cannot adapted, then you are going to be left out...btw, I've seen numberous international student from HK that doesn't even know how to buy a cheaper bus pass in school..Being school smart is not enought in here, at least you have to be street smart too in order to survive.and to most student in a foreign countries, polish up your english speaking skills....writing doesn't matter much in US...cause if they can't hear you, they ignore you...
原帖由 hk_ayu 於 2006-8-15 16:37 發表
You know there are CE and AL which force a lot students to study aboard.
We have no chioces.
And Australia is the cheapest destination among the three hittest destinations.
haha
Aus ...
原帖由 art0925 於 2006-8-16 01:51 發表
create alot of problems between teaching staff/ host families (ie, argument/ fights with host familes have increase to about 27%
That's really bad
I think the host families should also be responsible on this matter.
I know America is a self-centered/egocentric nation.
But they shouldn't force foreign students to follow American style.
Like sleeping late or getting up late, this doesn't interrupt the host families.
Similarly, we can't force American exchange students in HK to sleep late.
I know it's good to experience foreign culture.
But it's just a nightmare to see their non-hygenic culture.
If Australia force us to eat 1-year-overdue food,
most of us must run back to Hong Kong.
Melbourne is a multi-cultural society,
70% of citizens are not the real Aussie.
Many of them are Greek, Italian, German, Brazilian, Indian, Indonesian, Malaysian, African and Chinese.
People know how to understand cultural differences.
Melbourne has a stronger city core and better train network that lead to a relatively later-sleeping lifestyle.
My host (a 60-year-old lady) usually sleeps at 11am and sometimes comes home from the club at 1am.
[ 本帖最後由 hk_ayu 於 2006-8-16 15:43 編輯 ]
well, I would not use the word arrogant, but rather, assimilation, this is the first thing I learn when I was in US, we melted in to the melting pot...seriouly, why the host family care, because alot of student came home late, then turn on the lights and take shower and stuff, and since alot of houses here are made of wood, you can definite hear the noise, we have hosted HK student before, too, but our family sleep around 11pm, and those late student that came back alot of times did wake us up....and waking up late is simply not the northwest culture, since most people wake up around 6am (some even at 4am) for work, therefore, alot of people want to sleep around 9-11pm, just like where I live, the community have rules that no honking/ loud music from home/ car after 9pm to 6am...and when those student sleep late, and wake up didn't see their host in the house, they complain that their host ditch them...see...this is why alot of host rather prefer Japanese/ Korean student, then HK student...and talking about self center, I think alot of recent HK international student are more arrogant and self center then those American, seriously...
原帖由 hk_ayu 於 2006-8-16 15:29 發表
That's really bad
I think the host families should also be responsible on this matter.
I know America is a self-centered/egocentric nation.
But they shouldn't force foreign students to f ...