abh 發表於 2007-10-4 19:38

原帖由 ahbong 於 2007-10-4 01:45 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif


After all, shopping centres ARE shopping centres.
You go there for shopping right? (er... if you go there for free Starbucks coffee, you probably aren't a shopper)
What can be impressive except the...

If shopping centres are just shopping centres, all building of this type can be identical and shops are allocated in the building.

There are four major types of shopping centres, they have different functions:
1. The estate shopping centre is for convenience of the nearby estate for daily necessities and meals. e.g. Lung Poon Court
2. District shopping centre has more branded shops and bigger, which targets at people living in the district. e.g. Tsz Wan Shan Shopping Centre
3. Regional shopping centre is the largest centre and has the most branded shops in a region. e.g. APM for Kowloon East
4. Characteristic shopping centre is a centre specialised in a particular trade. e.g. Golden for computers

In each of these types, it is divided into low ended, medium ended and high ended.

Even with the same trade mix, different designs of a shopping centre can generate a totally different revenue.

A shopping centre attracts people to shop there, but not all (and you cannot expect all) the visitors are purposely shopping for something. If you know that footfall, even for those not spending a penny, in a centre counts on rent, you will know why attractive design is an important factor.

Example:
I went to elements to appreciate the design and appraise the facilities therein. I was not targeting to buy something.

ahbong 發表於 2007-10-5 00:48

原帖由 abh 於 2007-10-4 19:38 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif


If shopping centres are just shopping centres, all building of this type can be identical and shops are allocated in the building.

There are four major types of shopping centres, they have differen ...

I appreciate your detailed explanation.

As you've said that the Elements is very similar to IFC, which means that in your opinion, both shopping malls are unimpressive.

Can you tell us which mall in Hong Kong is impressive to you? And in what way impressive?

In my own shopping experience, I found ALL shopping malls simply identical or largely similar (especially those new malls, e.g. Langham Place/APM, with the same brands selling the same products). The Elements is somewhat different as 40% of the shops are new brands in Hong Kong. I found it impressive in that way. I went there on the first day because of Mulberry, and I probably will go there again for some more new shops in town.

And I'm not sure if this is a correct survey, but it seems that high-ended shopping malls in Hong Kong don't have impressive design at all. Look at Harbour City, Pacific Place, IFC, Festival Walk... what impresses you?

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dennis28a 發表於 2007-10-6 18:57

原帖由 virus 於 2007-10-2 21:12 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif


以前通往巴士總站通道的夾層,
即東涌線大堂向上行扶梯。

現時九龍站C出口再細分為 C1 和 C2 (即原本的C出口),
前者通往 ELEMENTS (其實D出口也是),後者通往「空中花園」。

D出口是機場快線市區預辦登機大堂再上一層 ...

正確上,現時重新編排後的九龍站出口如下。
A、B 出口不變。
C:圓方
C1:圓方(木區)、巴士總站(前 C 出口,但巴士總站的 C 出口的水牌還在)
C2:空中花園(前 D1 出口、最初為 D2 出口)
D:圓方(原來指示牌並不存在)
D1:圓方(金區)(原來出口並不存在)
D2:空中花園(前 D2 出口、最初為 D1 出口)

abh 發表於 2007-10-7 15:28

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As you've said that the Elements is very similar to IFC, which means that in your opinion, both shopping malls are unimpressive.

Correct. They are said to be "Racecourses" - you need not go around a "circle". IFC is more conspicious.

Can you tell us which mall in Hong Kong is impressive to you? And in what way impressive?

1. Festival walk
if you look at that from the top, it is merely a box, but when you walk inside the wide corridors, you do not see the whole centre through and let you explore more and more.

2. Langham place
The use of giant escalators at a small site increased the footfall on upper floors. you can hardly imagine the 9-12F of other shopping centres can be so crowded. The spread of people is very even. But I don't like the dark finish. it is like prudential centre.

3. The Place
This mall is in Beijing, but it impresses me very much because of the use of big big canopy crossover TV screen. it is very impossible in hk because of site coverage and GFA calculation. the superstructure is splitted in two sides and they look like many different buildings. But you feel one centre when you walk inside. The worst thing is that they put all the restaurants at the basement so that all the people stay in the basement / 1F. if they reshuffle the shops, they should get better result.

The Elements is somewhat different as 40% of the shops are new brands in Hong Kong. I found it impressive in that way. I went there on the first day because of Mulberry, and I probably will go there again for some more new shops in town.

OK.

And I'm not sure if this is a correct survey, but it seems that high-ended shopping malls in Hong Kong don't have impressive design at all. Look at Harbour City, Pacific Place, IFC, Festival Walk... what impresses you?

Nothing at all, Festival Walk is better, but HK is full of restrictions of ideas.

ngkongwai 發表於 2007-10-15 21:00

原帖由 ahbong 於 2007-10-2 01:53 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
無麥當勞, 只有 threesixty 內的 food ...

麥當勞機鐡店有間:) , ThreeSixty入面的漢堡包味道不錯, 圓方美中不足就是免費車只有往圓方單向服務:'(

bigfish_hk2 發表於 2007-10-15 23:05

原帖由 ngkongwai 於 2007-10-15 21:00 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif

麥當勞機鐡店有間:) , ThreeSixty入面的漢堡包味道不錯, 圓方美中不足就是免費車只有往圓方單向服務:'(

請問ThreeSixty入面的漢堡包賣幾錢呀?

pac423 發表於 2007-10-16 20:58

原帖由 bigfish_hk2 於 2007-10-15 23:05 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif


請問ThreeSixty入面的漢堡包賣幾錢呀?

$2x-$4x左右, 加$10有薯條同汽水

pochi 發表於 2007-10-20 03:51

原帖由 pac423 於 2007-10-16 20:58 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif


$2x-$4x左右, 加$10有薯條同汽水

今日係咁咦睇過,好似最平那個散叫都要$38

cong 發表於 2007-10-20 15:48

dennis28a 發表於 2007-10-21 00:07

原帖由 ngkongwai 於 2007-10-15 21:00 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif


麥當勞機鐡店有間:) , ThreeSixty入面的漢堡包味道不錯, 圓方美中不足就是免費車只有往圓方單向服務:'(

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