ricky619 發表於 2005-10-19 00:32

edhong在 2005-10-18 09:04 PM 發表:

bus 01 : driver a (morning), driver b (one cycle), driver c (night)
bus 02 : driver d (morning), driver a (one cycle), driver e (night)
bus s01 : driver b (morning and night).



這樣的三部車與一般安排也是用上五位車長,
有甚麼好處呢?

edhong 發表於 2005-10-19 00:42

ricky619在 2005-10-19 00:32 發表:



這樣的三部車與一般安排也是用上五位車長,
有甚麼好處呢?

save overtime salary !

as if bus 01 : a + b, bus 02 : c + d, bus s01 : e

the driver e won't works 8 hrs. enough, but driver b and d will be have too much overtime salary.

another clever (may be more stupid) method should be A route bus order B route, B route bus order back A route. An example : the relationship of 14 and 259D, 215X and 269C, 641 and 224X ...

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orange 發表於 2005-10-19 00:46

edhong在 2005-10-19 12:42 AM 發表:



save overtime salary !

as if bus 01 : a + b, bus 02 : c + d, bus s01 : e

the driver e won't works 8 hrs. enough, but driver b and d will be have too much overtime salary.

a ...

一來節省人工,而另一個原因係替食飯,等車長
可以休息,而車就照去,近年唔少過海線同旺門
路線都用呢招,目的當然係keep住有車去之餘最
重要係減少返廠次數

不過b車長咁做法真係多多訓覺錢都補唔番

[ Last edited by orange on 2005-10-19 at 00:50 ]

gk9112 發表於 2005-10-19 00:55

orange在 2005-10-19 00:46 發表:



一來節省人工,而另一個原因係替食飯,等車長
可以休息,而車就照去,近年唔少過海線同旺門
路線都用呢招,目的當然係keep住有車去之餘最
重要係減少返廠次數

不過b車長咁做法真係多多訓覺錢都補唔番

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- 其實冷門線都會咁做,因為冷門線通常都冇蛇車
攝正字軌食飯時間,所以行大兩味制度就最岩,可以
人停但車照去;以小弟所知,73A就係行大兩味.

orange 發表於 2005-10-19 00:56

edhong在 2005-10-18 10:07 PM 發表:



the above example is for gold company. this company doesn't have formal name to call this system. i used 'jump aeroplane' just let boardmates know that have such system.

其實呢種跳更/跳字軌制度無記錯係地鐵/火車上用得最多,
不過而家金公司十條線四條都用,真係唔知幾時連o的冷門
路線都要跳埋

CardCaptor 發表於 2005-10-19 00:57

gk9112在 19-10-2005 00:17 發表:



- 唔係好明,咁同全部車長都係大兩味有咩分別?

只做一更車的司機只是需要在用膳後接另一部車
而無需像大兩味般等幾個鐘再接更

hkbw 發表於 2005-10-19 01:49

gk9112在 2005-10-19 00:16 發表:



- 都要新上牌果位車長肯同佢拍長早/長夜先可以,否則該
名做開長早/長夜既車長都係要照輪返早夜更;有錯請指正.

如果長早長夜拆夥的話, 唔想做長早/夜的那一個會調去第二部車, 而空出來的長早/夜位
就會由第二個頂上…(If not, then長夜既車長都係要照輪返早夜更)
通常會此調動會在同一線中的車長中進行.
87D早陣子先有一對長早/夜拆夥…

其實九巴都仲有不少車長要跳飛機…係個人跳而不是部車跳…
小弟記得87D 22車的夜更車長係要先接86K 蛇車 (冇記錯九月係HG4404), 行一個
單87D出九龍, 之後私牌返錦英, 休息個幾鐘先開自己部掛牌車的.

九巴d司機工時唔一定的wo…個個字軌都有多少出入….
同一條線, 有d字軌會係補成3,4仔, 但有d字軌會係補蛋的….

除蛇車外, 一部車通常一日都有兩個更份…
正常的早更係朝早5:00-7:00 (再晚一點都會有)出廠, 14:00-16:00左右交更,夜更
就駕到23:00-01:00不等…
早夜更都會有35mins-60mins食飯不等, 視乎個別字軌而定…
補充一點, 如果食飯時間得半個鐘的話, 聽過有司機稱之為 “皇家飯”

而家就算係蛇車, 都有兩種..一種就真係早上及夜晚繁忙時間先出來行的,
但另一種就同行全日車冇乜分別, 係要頂正字軌食飯的空檔的, 中段只得個多至兩小
時休息…85K其中一部要成日攝87D的蛇車正正係一例….

petcity 發表於 2005-10-20 21:10

gk9112在 2005-10-18 11:17 PM 發表:



- 應該係,如果佢拍檔甩牌的話,咁果位司機就要
跟大隊輪早夜更:).

冇錯,282有一位師姐拍檔退休曾經要由長早變返輪早夜
但而家已經變返長早,81K就有一個例子,返長早,又係
拍檔退休而變返輪返早夜

DT1821 發表於 2005-10-22 01:00

edhong在 2005-10-18 09:04 PM 發表:



now the company starts play 'jump aeroplane' ! below is an example.

bus 01 : driver a (morning), driver b (one cycle), driver c (night)
bus 02 : driver d (morning), driver a (one cycle), driver e (night)
bus s01 : driver b (morning and night).

you can see its familar system in route 6, 6a, 6d ...


bus 01係咪打錯左呢...?係咪應該係driver d呢?
如果跟你咁講,咁蛇車司機咪一日揸兩部車而且冇"tup"車?

DT1821 發表於 2005-10-22 01:11

gk9112在 2005-10-19 12:55 AM 發表:




- 其實冷門線都會咁做,因為冷門線通常都冇蛇車
攝正字軌食飯時間,所以行大兩味制度就最岩,可以
人停但車照去;以小弟所知,73A就係行大兩味.

唔係...
73A並冇用大兩味制度...
雖然佢冇蛇車攝食飯...
但係佢D班次夠疏...
根據時間表,9:18之前既班次為24-26分鐘...
9:18-12:14之班次為28-30分鐘...
拉長左既呢4分鐘加埋一單內司機根本唔會揸到官方行車時間咁耐...
咁拉上補下就成為司機既食飯時間,由此做到冇蛇車又唔使大兩味...

有錯請指正~
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