主教主教 , 香港之恥 ?
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/051218/12/1joid.html天主教香港教區主教陳日君昨日直斥警方，前日無法在暴力出現時第一時間拘捕滋事分子，事後卻將滋事分子和大批和平進行示威的人士通宵扣在告士打道，其間沒有提供食水和如廁等照顧，是「香港的羞恥」。陳日君今日凌晨親自到觀塘裁判法院，憤怒地猛敲法院大門，要求進入法院探望事件中被捕的南韓修女，而立法會議員吳靄儀也到場聲援。
呢位主教晨甘早去 (據無記報導為早上 7 時半)[ 憤怒地猛敲法院大門 ]﹐未知呢位主教知唔知咩係辦公時間??剩係 charge 拒藐視司法機構﹐都可以出 warrant "請" 阿主教上庭﹐再請拒食返 7 日皇家飯。司法機構無同拒追究﹐已經俾晒面。
呢位主教可能受古惑仔電影有所影響﹐走去法院踩場仲未夠﹐仲要話警方﹐無法在暴力出現時第一時間拘捕滋事分子，我諗天主教都有教過憤怒中既人會做唔理性既事。主﹐要求世人要寬容﹐寬恕。
但係我就一 D 都睇唔到呢個主教有咩寬容。仲有咩資格做一教之主??拒唔試下走去 church of England 門口﹐早上 7 時半﹐憤怒地猛敲大門﹐我會睇到 2 個下場。
事後卻將滋事分子和大批和平進行示威的人士通宵扣在告士打道
一﹐示威者同警方都要時間冷靜
二﹐係示威者唔肯走﹐定係警方扣留先?
陳日君更質疑政府舉辦這次會議。他說，香港是一個細城市，沒有國際城市的經驗，舉辦世貿部長級會議這類大型活動是「冒險」。
150 年前﹐香港係一個漁港﹐沒有國際城市的經驗﹐60 - 70 年代既工業發展跟本就係個大冒險。神愛世人﹐主教想叫我地全港市民返觀塘碼頭釣魚為生。 再次證實我既一句﹔ 憤怒中既人會做唔理性既事。
陳日君昨晚11時到達灣仔鴻興道示威區探望示威者，逗留了約20分鐘。他直指警方領導層沒有「做足功課」及安排足夠警力應付昨日情，不單令警員冒險，而待動亂發生後才採取拘捕行動，是不合標準。
主教梗係認為警方應該第一時間拘捕滋事分子﹐等拒地反抗﹐囉 D 鐵枝﹐鐵欄﹐木板係甘通 / 毆 D 差人﹐雙方血流成河﹐死亡人數破旦﹐就合祂標準啦。
他續說﹕「連（拘留）地方都不夠，現在還帶他們（示威者）遊車河，無提供任何照顧。」但他重申，自己及香港市民不支持任何暴力，他亦非支持南韓農民。
拘留地方都不夠﹐就唔可以拉甘多人?咩道理??
對於有傳媒直指事件為「大暴動」，香港人權監察總幹事羅沃啟強調前晚的衝突絕非「暴動（riot）」，因事件中南韓示威者的目的只為衝破警方防線，表達示威訴求，其間並無使用燃燒彈等危險武器或蓄意破壞商舖或傷人，但他承認社會秩序因衝突失去平衡，故或可稱之為「騷動」。對於有示威者投訴被扣留時受到不人道對待，羅沃啟指已去信保安局長李少光(相關新聞 - 網站)要求跟進。
琴晚睇明報仲離譜﹐其中一標題為灣仔 [ 淪陷 ] ﹐我睇到個標題﹐只係諗到我一定要捉晒果段新聞既 撰文﹐PROVE READ﹐ 排版﹐到執字粒﹐全部捉晒去考語文基準試。 相反﹐一向尖銳既生果報﹐反而響一班嘩眾取寵既 [ 有渣傳媒 ]下﹐顯得中立。
<font style="font-size: 9pt">[這篇文章最後由lams在 2005/12/20 02:49 第 1 次編輯]</font> 我覺得今次東方最尖銳 蘋果中立d 我個人覺得是次主教之言論實在令人反感及有失本身身份
聲明:.本人沒任何宗教信仰
[ Last edited by guia on 2005-12-19 at 23:08 ] tonytsang_hk在 2005-12-19 11:04 AM 發表:
我覺得今次東方最尖銳 蘋果中立d
與其稱其尖銳﹐倒不如稱其為爭銷量而煽情
guia在 2005-12-19 01:37 PM 發表:
我個人覺得是些主教之言論實在令人反感及有失本身身份
聲明:.本人沒任何宗教信仰
聲明:.本人都沒任何宗教信仰 ﹔
不過見到個教主好似潮州怒漢甘響"法院"門口拍門
(我以為卡通片先會有呢 D 鏡頭)
如果我係教徒﹐我都唔敢話自己係﹐
反正耶酥都會寬恕 D 唔認祂既信徒... smal在 2005-12-19 10:38 PM 發表:
聲明:.本人都沒任何宗教信仰 ﹔
不過見到個教主好似潮州怒漢甘響"法院"門口拍門
(我以為卡通片先會有呢 D 鏡頭)
如果我係教徒﹐我都唔敢話自己係﹐
反正耶酥都會寬恕 D 唔認祂既信徒...
聲明：本人無信仰，而且反對天主教、基督教部份教義。
我不認為教徒應該因為主教的失當行為而
以自己身為教徒為恥，或不敢承認之。說
到底，一個人的信仰應該不是只因個別有
該信仰的人仕而確立的吧？ 238X在 2005-12-19 02:49 PM 發表:
聲明：本人無信仰，而且反對天主教、基督教部份教義。
我不認為教徒應該因為主教的失當行為而
以自己身為教徒為恥，或不敢承認之。說
到底，一個人的信仰應該不是只因個別有
該信仰的人仕而確立的吧？
Thanks for your comment.However, can we see some constructive comment from you rather then having you picking up a particular point and start 'draging' with some non-constructive comment?I am not forcing you to reply my entire article.But at least, you are just showing lack of ability to digest other people point of view.In this topic, the main focus was at the 主教的失當行為 and his wonderful speeches.Not so to 信仰,if you want to start comment about 信仰, you are more than welcome to start your own topic to dicuss religous issues.What you are showing here, to me, is just simply 為回一些人而回文, because of some unpleasent experience off someone / some topic ...... you know what I mean.
Is it coincidence or is my article really that attractive to you?Its getting too obvious init?
http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/viewthread.php?tid=44644&fpage=2
http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/viewthread.php?tid=37655&fpage=1
板友間既個人性針對.......um....... challenge 唔 challenge 你好呢....... smal在 2005-12-19 11:08 PM 發表:
Thanks for your comment.However, can we see some constructive comment from you rather then having you picking up a particular point and start 'draging' with some non-constructive comment?I...
To say, I also don't think bishop Chen's action is appropriate,
but I am unable and unwilling to denounce his action making
himself as the shame to Hong Kong.
I feel sorry to find out that two of my more aggressive articles
were involving you.However, it is pretty unlikely for me to say
something aggressive to the same person intentionally, and after
something happened 4 months ago (especially something that
would need you to do an extensive site search to re-organize!).
If I want express my anger on the same person, I will do it rather
as frequently as, say, every day.
Frankly, I think you are making some kind of gamble of posting
this.There would be risk that your peer realizes you were frequently
expressing points that he/she doesn't agree, and may inflare a
real discontent.(This is what happened to me a few times)
I think I will choose to "tear myself up", and view the event as
if I am a third person, in order to prevent such a situation from
happening.But again, I'd like to express my apology to the
coincidences you mentioned.
[ Last edited by 238X on 2005-12-19 at 23:34 ] 238X在 2005-12-19 03:32 PM 發表:
To say, I also don't think bishop Chen's action is appropriate,
but I am unable and unwilling to denounce his action making
himself as the shame to Hong Kong.
There is no doubt that Bishop Chen has been making a disgrace of his personality over
what he has done, throught the media.
Thanks for your comment that is related to the topic.
Comments that are constructively are usually more welcome on the net.
I feel sorry to find out that two of my more aggressive articles
were involving you.However, it is pretty unlikely for me to say
something aggressive to the same person intentionally, and after
something happened 4 months ago (especially something that
would need you to do an extensive site search to re-organize!).
To be honest with you, I did not found your posting aggressive at all.None the less, the point which I was trying to make is the lack ability to digest what the poster was trying to say.Talking off aggressiveness, I would say, I was told rather, my comment in , http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/viewthread.php?tid=37655&fpage=1
in relation to your comment was far beyond the aggressiveness that you mentioned off your postings.
If I want express my anger on the same person, I will do it rather
as frequently as, say, every day.
I did not say that you are expressing your anger on me or anyone on the forum.You might think of that of your own mind, I do not know nor that I am interested it in.However, the point which I was trying to make and I am still making is that please make constructive comments in relation to the poster's topic rather than changing the nature of the poster's article.To me, and probably majority of the net users, this is considered non-constructive and perhaps rude.
Frankly, I think you are making some kind of gamble of posting
this.
What makes you think I am making a gamble at the posting?? Well, I presume your thinking is surely 'different' to mine and perhaps some others.I am making a point.The point that you are still having problems of - digesting the poster's Point-Of-View and changing the subject off the poster's article. (and you are still making the same 'mistake' - if you want to put it that way)
There would be risk that your peer realizes you were frequently
expressing points that he/she doesn't agree, and may inflare a
real discontent.(This is what happened to me a few times)
And this is the reason why we are discussing on the net.Different point-of-view, if a certain person constantly disagrees with what the majority agree, that I believe, would not consider as inflaring a real discontent.That would consider as odd.
I think I will choose to "tear myself up", and view the event as
if I am a third person, in order to prevent such a situation from
happening.But again, I'd like to express my apology to the
coincidences you mentioned.
Thankyou for your personal suggestion.However, as I said, I am pointing out a common oddies that I would like to see you to improve.If really I have to "tear myself up"and view the event as if I am a third person, I would rather found myself too kind, if not too nosey to'remind' you to stay on the track.
But again, your apology is accepted and I am open for further comments if you would like to share any. :) smal在 2005-12-19 23:08 發表:
What you are showing here, to me, is just simply 為回一些人而回文, because of some unpleasent experience off someone / some topic ...... you know what I mean.
Is it coincidence or is my article really that attractive to you?Its getting too obvious init?
http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/viewthread.php?tid=44644&fpage=2
http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/viewthread.php?tid=37655&fpage=1
板友間既個人性針對.......um....... challenge 唔 challenge 你好呢.......
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