TOEFL兩問

1.據我所知TOEFL冇生字之類要背，但有人話有，邊樣先真？

2. TOEFL係咪6月尾轉制，加Speaking？

另問，CE06 Eng Syll. B Paper 2拎108/119，照計A唔A到？

haha, the only thing i can say is read more english stuff la, like books, newspaper, cause TOFEL is not just an academic tool (an ugly secret: it's rather a tool to measure how well you can survive in an English environment (US), if you are really good at english in HK, doesn’t mean you can be good in TOFEL, (especially, American English, if you are not accustom to them, you may have trouble at listening.

I heard so, but if you are doing speaking, make sure to use American English..Cause I’ve heard that they will grade hard on accents

原帖由 yylee 於 2006-5-21 14:46 發表
1.據我所知TOEFL冇生字之類要背，但有人話有，邊樣先真？

2. TOEFL係咪6月尾轉制，加Speaking？

另問，CE06 Eng Syll. B Paper 2拎108/119，照計A唔A到？

原帖由 yylee 於 2006-5-21 14:46 發表
1.據我所知TOEFL冇生字之類要背，但有人話有，邊樣先真？

2. TOEFL係咪6月尾轉制，加Speaking？

另問，CE06 Eng Syll. B Paper 2拎108/119，照計A唔A到？

1.係唔駛背生字,
   因為背左都冇用,
   學識睇上文下理估生字意思更重要。

   仲有改句子/字詞part,
   comprehensive reading part(應該係三篇文),
   同composition(作文)part,
   應該難唔到你既。

   值得一提既,
   係composition同考CE好唔同,
   你會有一個topic,
   o係20分鐘內有幾多打幾多
   (美國係唔興限字數既),
   打大約4段(5,6句一段)應該幾定當。
   轉左制後,
   依家好似要打兩篇文。


2.香港學生對listening(現加oral)非常弱,
   listening係正正美國人平日講野既速度,
   唔係好似CEo個d咁慢。
   (其實已經講得好正啦)

   listening同oral並非一朝一夕就學得識,
   呢兩part做得唔好唔駛自責,
   盡左力就得。

   oral聽我細佬講係對住機器講(我考時仲未有oral),
   你會有一個topic,
   o係time limit內有幾多講幾多,
   不過千萬唔好由中文「直譯」英文,
   會失好多分,
   又係盡左力就得,
   可能你唔知"American English"係乜(除非你係本地人)。

仲有,TOEFL唔係計'A'...'B'...etc...grade,
係計總分既,
computer base大約220分/paper base 550分,
係入大部份大學college level最低要求,
否則就可能要讀英文ESL班(English as Second Language)。

[ 本帖最後由 joeli16 於 2006-6-1 11:17 編輯 ]

Yes ar, because TOFEL follows the US norm of testing, but seriously, I've been in workship regarding TOFEL (but I didn't take TOFEL, because US citizens/ resident who came before HS are not allow to take TOFEL) but all i can say, TOFEL is much harder then what we local takes for exam.  Also, one hint for people taking TOFEL, use words in English Spelling (such as Favorite then Favourite)  and for oral, definitly use American English, as most American really hates British (they think British English is snobbish) and if you use English (or worst, hk english) you might get a bad grade (chances are over 90%).  Cause I know some grader for TOFEL, they especially pick on these issue to fail people (if you fail, then, you have to pay again to take the exam, which is like $100+, SAT/ ACT cost only about $20 us)

原帖由 joeli16 於 2006-6-1 11:16 發表

1.係唔駛背生字,
   因為背左都冇用,
   學識睇上文下理估生字意思更重要。

   仲有改句子/字詞part,
   comprehensive reading part(應該係三篇文),
   同composition(作文)part,
   應該難唔到你既。 ...

CE english oral!! they sounds like either old people speaking or people have speech problem, too slow, and TOFEL, I think it's oral exam is fair enought lei, the english is easy to listen too (American Standard), much better then some American infact (especially Southeners accents, it's even hard for listen for normal westcoasters)

原帖由 joeli16 於 2006-6-1 11:16 發表

1.係唔駛背生字,
   因為背左都冇用,
   學識睇上文下理估生字意思更重要。

   仲有改句子/字詞part,
   comprehensive reading part(應該係三篇文),
   同composition(作文)part,
   應該難唔到你既。 ...

Now the new policy for alot of Community College is that, if you have bad grade in TOFEL, you must take ESL (the new ESL program is whole day and cost almost the same as normal 15 credits, (but it won't count as transferrable credit) and some Uni doesn't even have ESL, if you TOFEL is not good, then....u will not be admitted.

原帖由 joeli16 於 2006-6-1 11:16 發表

1.係唔駛背生字,
   因為背左都冇用,
   學識睇上文下理估生字意思更重要。

   仲有改句子/字詞part,
   comprehensive reading part(應該係三篇文),
   同composition(作文)part,
   應該難唔到你既。 ...