Olympian, Dominator and Metrobus

以上三款車0係英國嘅銷量係咪olympian 最好, dominator 最差?
點解?

唔知係咪同佢地o既避震懸掛有關呢?

據知係Metrobus最好, Dominator最差

記得澳洲那一架M450前車主在英國尋車時, 初時屬意也是Olympian,
但Ensign指出Metrobus數目較多, 零件支援較好.

[ref=107646]gordon[/ref]  在 2005-1-17 17:43 發表:

據知係Metrobus最好, Dominator最差

記得澳洲那一架M450前車主在英國尋車時, 初時屬意也是Olympian,
但Ensign指出Metrobus數目較多, 零件支援較好.

It is the Olympian which topped the sale amongst the trio. In fact,
it is also the best selling double decker of its time.

Throughout its 20 year production life between 1980 to 1999, some
10268 Olympians were manufactured (4855 Leylands + 5413 Volvos).
Excluding the 3870(?) examples which were exported (HK: 2497,
Singapore: 600, Ireland: 640, Greece: 20, USA: 11, demonstrators: 2),
there are 6398 examples sold in Britain alone.

What Ensign means is at the time M450 was shipped, parts for the
Metrobus is more readily available because they were being withdrawn
from London and Birmingham (two of its main haunts) en-masse.
At the time though, only the very early examples of Olympians were
starting to come out of service, its parts are, relatively, spare. At the
end of its production life, just over 3000 Metrobuses were built, with
almost 500 were exported to HK.

The Dominator, as said, is the worst seller of the trio. Just 1107
were throughout its 18 years of production (not counting its 3-axle
sister Dragon/Condor), including 47 export examples. Astonishingly,
Dennis actually sold more Dragons (1326) to KMB ALONE...

The reason of the non-sell of the Dominator is, partly, because of
its relatively obsolete design. The chassis, for a start, is based on
the Bristol VRT. When modern competing products, like the Metrobus,
and later, the Olympian, come along, it becomes no match to either
of them. The Dominator did well in its first 3 years of its production,
but the Metrobus competed with it heavily. When the Olympian went
into production in 1980, it virtually blew the Dominator out completely.

[ Last edited by NV58 on 2005-1-17 at 19:47 ]

[ref=107658]NV58[/ref]  在 2005-1-18 03:41 AM 發表:
Throughout its 20 year production life between 1980 to 1999, some
10268 Olympians were manufactured (4855 Leylands + 5413 Volvos).
Excluding the 3870(?) examples which were exported (HK: 2497,
Singapore: 600, Ireland: 640, Greece: 20, USA: 11, demonstrators: 2),
there are 6398 examples sold in Britain alone.
...
The Dominator, as said, is the worst seller of the trio. Just 1107
were throughout its 18 years of production (not counting its 3-axle
sister Dragon/Condor), including 47 export examples. Astonishingly,
Dennis actually sold more Dragons (1326) to KMB ALONE...

For the total production number of Olympian, I get another number as follows:
Built in Bristol: 1,004 (B45.01-09, ON1-995)
Built in Workington (1983-86, 1990-93): 2,723 (ON1001-2645, 20001-21080)
*Built in Farrington: around 1,854 (ON10001-11857)
*Total Volvo Olympians: 4,749 (025001-029749)
Total Olympians built: around 10,330...#:-/
(*: There may be some chassis numbers not allocated to any chassis)

The number of Olympian exported to Singapore
should be 401 (Leyland)+571 (Volvo)= 972, including 3 which was back to UK.

And the total number of 2-axle Dominator built is 1007, not 1107
(chassis number 101-1107, including a chassis
which was rebuilt as trolleybus DTA1401/101).

其實dennis 嘅巴士都沉左好耐wo, 只係靠香港, 直至dart同trident 出現...
dennis 點解咁鍾意抄襲, dominator 抄Bristol VRT, jubilant 抄victoryii...難怪銷路差
不過唔知點解得d香港巴士公司歡心

[ref=107703]ads190[/ref]  在 2005-1-18 02:11 發表:



For the total production number of Olympian, I get another number as follows:
Built in Bristol: 1,004 (B45.01-09, ON1-995)
Built in Workington (1983-86, 1990-93): 2,723 (ON1001-2645, 20001-2 ...

That is interesting, the number I got is from the BUSES focus Autumn 2000 issue
(the 20th ann. of Olympian). Their breakdown is as follow:

Bristol: 1004 Leylands
Workington: 1997 Leylands
Farington: 1854 Leylands
Irving: 5413 Volvos

Whilst it's not affecting the number much, but isn't the first two Volvo chassis'
numbered out of the sequence?

[ref=108454]sunnykam[/ref]  在 2005-1-19 04:16 AM 發表:
其實dennis 嘅巴士都沉左好耐wo, 只係靠香港, 直至dart同trident 出現...
dennis 點解咁鍾意抄襲, dominator 抄Bristol VRT, jubilant 抄victory ii...難怪銷路差
不過唔知點解得d香港巴士公司歡心

我覺得似係Leyland Victory 2抄Dennis Jubilant多o的...

Dennis Jubilant o係1977年推出之時所用o既
Gardner 6LXB + Voith D851配搭係Dennis自己試驗過先至用o架，
之後Leyland研製Victory 2 o個陣就跟埋Jubilant用呢個配搭。
(註：Leyland Victory 2係1978年面世)

[ref=108454]sunnykam[/ref]  在 2005-1-19 04:16 AM 發表:

其實dennis 嘅巴士都沉左好耐wo, 只係靠香港, 直至dart同trident 出現...
dennis 點解咁鍾意抄襲, dominator 抄Bristol VRT, jubilant 抄victoryii...難怪銷路差
不過唔知點解得d香港巴士公司歡心

其實會否是因為丹尼斯巴士整體的車價較其他車款便宜?

[ref=108454]sunnykam[/ref]  在 2005-1-19 04:16 AM 發表:

其實dennis 嘅巴士都沉左好耐wo, 只係靠香港, 直至dart同trident 出現...
dennis 點解咁鍾意抄襲, dominator 抄Bristol VRT, jubilant 抄victoryii...難怪銷路差
不過唔知點解得d香港巴士公司歡心

其實都唔可以話抄既....
.只因當時已經係一廠獨大既時候...大部份車款經已落入
利蘭手上...雖然不同牌子...但始終都係同利蘭買#