GA6072 發表於 2009-2-17 01:36

原帖由 siupy 於 2009-2-17 01:22 發表 http://hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
先不計算客量問題及山上無車落坑口的影響,
如果98A拆線會否帶來更穩定班次??
298A 用5部車 坑口直出寶順路,跟足296A咁落行
98A 用9-12部車,縮短到寶琳 ...

如果小道消息堅的話,98A似乎會用車款黎穩定班次

HM4053 發表於 2009-2-17 13:24

原帖由 GA6072 於 2009-2-17 01:36 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif


如果小道消息堅的話,98A似乎會用車款黎穩定班次
用車款唔實際
就算98A全線出ATE/E3 ATR,碌車司機一樣會碌
基本上唔可以穩定班次

*塞一塞,派乜車型都係咁先

[ 本帖最後由 HM4053 於 2009-2-17 13:27 編輯 ]

HM4053 發表於 2009-2-17 13:34

原帖由 siupy 於 2009-2-17 01:22 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
先不計算客量問題及山上無車落坑口的影響,
如果98A拆線會否帶來更穩定班次??
298A 用5部車 坑口直出寶順路,跟足296A咁落行
98A 用9-12部車,縮短到寶琳 ...
298A諗得過,不過有冇咁多人搭呢
如果唔夠客就聽cut車

98A還掂都係想縮,
不如寶達至APM[可以減少同93A,95M重覆]
有轉乘,班次密D
多左既車分去95M,93A協助上山

~誰@359~ 發表於 2009-2-17 14:41

原帖由 GA6072 於 2009-2-17 00:44 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
你諗住副線唔加轉乘:funk: ) q! h, o5 \; W8 x( E9 V
咁你又諗住95M/98A開幾多分鐘一班?

小弟諗住用98C一拆四黎嚇下你1 H. }# w( d/ w5 `4 [# H( T
點知你重驚嚇:funk:巴士,鐵路,生活* p* ^" J* G; w+ j, o) |; @
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另,小弟坐中頂閘98C係星期二夜晚10:15既事

(Poor English mode:lol )
Well, I think it is not so reasonable for 95M to have BBI
as most of the BBI passengers may use the bus stops in KLB to exchange 98A
the demand of the BBI of 98A in KT will be greatly reduced
Also , if 95M has BBI, the BBI function of 98A will be weaken very much
Then it can't fulfil the origin of the plan

And according to my plan, the frequency of 95M will be 15mins
and that of 98A in Choi Hung will be about 6 to 7 normally
but it will decrease to about 10 if the special departure is presence
About the special departure, the frequency will be about 15mins

I don't think my plan on 98C has any problem
The sugeestion of 98C MK bypass departure had already posted here in 2007
You said that the 98C was fully-filled, but it seems to be due to insufficient of departure

原帖由 siupy 於 2009-2-17 01:22 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
先不計算客量問題及山上無車落坑口的影響,
如果98A拆線會否帶來更穩定班次??hkitalk.net5 V2 A& K) _$ y* C0 G% u* ~
298A 用5部車 坑口直出寶順路,跟足296A咁落行
98A用9-12部車,縮短到寶琳

If you tried to igonre the problems, then it is fine
The time required now is 68mins for 98A
After the changes, the time will be shorthen to about 48mins
and about 65mins of we calculate the extra time and " tea time " of drivers
Then, 10 cars are enough to keep the similar frequency
But, 98A has only 14 cars in the evening, so 298A can only use 4 cars
According to the journey time of 296A, we can assume that the time of 298A is about 50mins
4 cars can only provide the frequency of 12/13mins
It is totally useless if the sea of 102 and MTR are still there

And the most important thing is, you can't igonre the problems in the real situation

~誰@359~ 發表於 2009-2-17 14:43

原帖由 HM4053 於 2009-2-17 13:34 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif

298A諗得過,不過有冇咁多人搭呢
如果唔夠客就聽cut車

98A還掂都係想縮,
不如寶達至APM[可以減少同93A,95M重覆]
有轉乘,班次密D
多左既車分去95M,93A協助上山 ...
Cut the journey to APM is not suitbable for 98A
As it becomes difficult to reach others bus stops and have the route interchange

GA6072 發表於 2009-2-17 15:16

回復 154# 的帖子

閣下咁做只會另98A既負荷不斷加重
而95M D客係多左,不過D客係強行被迫上95M

98A觀塘至山上繁時10分鐘一班
95M同時要用15分鐘一班,去頂住班本來7分鐘都頂到閘既客
其聯合班次同一條一係唔黎,一黎就兩部車埋站既98A有乜分別

1.95M加BBI,其BBI收可以同98A睇齊
2.95M唔加BBI,又想執98A死雞,係我地一廂情願既事,
到真正實行時,可能有人等足三部98A都唔上95M
3.98A開兩三班彩虹特車=/=清哂D九龍灣客,
可能重有半車人九龍灣客坐10min一班既98A,同D觀塘客爭位

你既98C既plan係繁時山上山下分拆?
不過小弟既95P只係做兩三班山上至旺角+油麻地既「的士線」

[ 本帖最後由 GA6072 於 2009-2-17 15:18 編輯 ]

~誰@359~ 發表於 2009-2-17 18:57

原帖由 GA6072 於 2009-2-17 15:16 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
閣下咁做只會另98A既負荷不斷加重
而95M D客係多左,不過D客係強行被迫上95M

98A觀塘至山上繁時10分鐘一班
95M同時要用15分鐘一班,去頂住班本來7分鐘都頂到閘既客
其聯合班次同一條一係唔黎,一黎就兩部車埋站既98A有乜分別

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1.95M加BBI,其BBI收可以同98A睇齊, t! w1
2.95M唔加BBI,又想執98A死雞,係我地一廂情願既事,巴士,鐵路,生活% gT" k0 A3 P6 K2 w+ v( k: c
到真正實行時,可能有人等足三部98A都唔上95M# X: S# Y* F1 |b# j! Q4 Y# W
3.98A開兩三班彩虹特車=/=清哂D九龍灣客,/ N' i" we* C, `# r* t2 u
可能重有半車人九龍灣客坐10min一班既98A,同D觀塘客爭位# b! GL9 B& c) q( s

你既98C既plan係繁時山上山下分拆?2 B, ~& M# \E6 M& N
不過小弟既95P只係做兩三班山上至旺角+油麻地既「的士線」
講到爛:98A既客到時係會分左一部分去特車度
7分鐘再加93K 95M係因為所有客都o係同一度上車
有特車,觀塘同牛頭角客自然就會冇咁多
加上,我個諗法係6分鐘一班,其實仲有空間加密
之前我都計過,17架車行延長後既98A可以做到6分半鐘一班
個計算係基於坑口彩虹班次同步,只要坑口開疏過呢個班次
有部分車返到坑口即刻私出彩虹做第二單,班次會做到更加密

你再諗下,而家93K 95M只係各自15分鐘一班執雞
執雞客數量亦都有限,最多每班車十幾個
所以98A所需既加密幅度唔需要特別大
7分鐘一班,一個鐘得八班,6分鐘一班咁一個鐘就有十班
6至10分鐘再加特車,每一個鐘既班次數量唔會少過十班
新加果兩班車其實夠做93K執雞客有突

1.呢個睇九記做法如何,95m加到點都好既…
2,我睇事實同需求做人既,而家有將來都會有,如果將來95M做唔住咁而家情況肯定更糟
3.呢個編班次既意念係來自98cs既班次編排做法
我深信唔會有98s客係見到s仔有車都唔上走去坐98c咁笨
98A到時情況亦會係一樣,唔停牛頭角觀塘唔洗塞車塞埋站,其實足夠做一個selling point
如果你擔心的話,98A可以改做踢咁一D車出牛頭角起載都可以

我從來唔贊成98c全日分拆,只不過係o係98c之上再開兩款特車

3AD60 發表於 2009-2-17 22:49

原帖由 GA6072 於 2009-2-17 15:16 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif


3.98A開兩三班彩虹特車=/=清哂D九龍灣客,
可能重有半車人九龍灣客坐10min一班既98A,同D觀塘客爭位

若果98A係彩虹開特車的話我相信98A既彩虹特車收費
唔止收$3.7(熱)/$5.2(冷),分分鐘個收費係$4.4(熱)/$5.8(冷)'

~誰@359~ 發表於 2009-2-17 22:56

原帖由 3AD60 於 2009-2-17 22:49 發表 http://hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif


若果98A係彩虹開特車的話我相信98A既彩虹特車收費
唔止收$3.7(熱)/$5.2(冷),分分鐘個收費係$4.4(熱)/$5.8(冷)'
我預算個收費會係$6.20
但各種取代70八仔轉乘既出現,已經證明左補償性既八仔轉乘可以唔受$3.70限制
所以,98A加價去到$6.20,但仍然可以用同線同方向轉乘補錢既方法
令$5.20乘客不受影響之餘,坐特車亦唔影響轉乘價

asv2 發表於 2009-2-17 23:05

原帖由 ~誰@359~ 於 2009-2-17 14:43 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif

Cut the journey to APM is not suitbable for 98A
As it becomes difficult to reach others bus stops and have the route interchange
轉乘可以係創紀之城 (渣打) 轉
APM 客亦只需花多少少時間係觀塘市中心落

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