yuenpo 發表於 2015-5-13 14:08

轉貼突發新聞:美國火車於費城附近出軌

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/amtrak-train-derails-in-philadelphia-5-people-killed/ar-BBjHvLi?ocid=mailsignoutmd#image=1

已知五人死亡,願安息
事故原因未明

238X 發表於 2015-5-14 14:07

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/13/us-usa-train-derailment-idUSKBN0NY04E20150513

根據路透社最新消息,已增至七人死亡

另外,事發時列車以大約 170km/h 行駛,
比限速 80km/h 高出超過一倍 :L

S3BL100 發表於 2015-5-14 22:43

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/13/politics/congress-amtrak-funding-crash/index.html

共和黨最無恥,事發翌日即投票大幅削減 Amtrak 經費,完全不把乘客安全放在眼裏

:@

238X 發表於 2015-5-15 10:20

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/13/politics/congress-amtrak-funding-crash/index.html

共和黨最無恥,事發翌日即投票大幅削減 Amtrak 經費,完全不把乘客安全放在眼裏

:@


根據新聞...
1. "The cut would apply only to Amtrak's capital spending and wouldn't touch funding levels for safety and operations."
雖則我都唔知可信性高低...

2. 投贊成票的共和黨啲人係知道自己做乜的:
"Don't use this tragedy in that way. It was beneath you (指民主黨)"
呢樣真係無得輸,講到明「我係要 cut 呀,吹咩」

3. 共和黨亦唔係鐵板一塊:
"Opposition to funding cuts isn't just coming from Democrats.
Some Republicans representing districts in the Northeast Corridor are pushing back against
conservatives who want to cut funding to Amtrak and privatize the rail service."

[ 本帖最後由 238X 於 2015-5-15 10:23 編輯 ]

S3BL100 發表於 2015-5-15 11:21

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我當然有睇晒成篇報導…

1. 雖然係咁講,但係 Amtrak 的硬件已經相當落後,老化的鐵路基建肯定唔會對行車安全有正面影響。
而且呢兩日先有其他電視新聞報導講緊,出事路段未裝安全裝置(無記錯好似係自動減速裝置),
如果裝左,好可能唔會發生今次意外。

2. 呢個係班政客無恥嘴臉的最佳例證,反過來共和黨人炒作其他人的痛苦,撈政治本錢的例子大有所在
(例如 2012 年駐利比亞 Benghazi 大使館遭恐怖襲擊,致包括駐當地大使在內四個美國人死亡的事件),
仲好意思話人?而且講真,就算涉及鐵路安全的運作經費,我唔認為共和黨人唔會毫不留情地 cut。

3. 國會入面山頭主義甚盛,而且代表不發達的郊區中年白人的共和黨議員同選民,
普遍視 Amtrak,尤其 Northeast Corridor,為服務東北部大城巿精英階層的小眾福利,
對之嗤之以鼻,Amtrak 自然成為開刀對象。

238X 發表於 2015-5-15 13:53

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我當然有睇晒成篇報導…

3. 國會入面山頭主義甚盛,而且代表不發達的郊區中年白人的共和黨議員同選民,
普遍視 Amtrak,尤其 Northeast Corridor,為服務東北部大城巿精英階層的小眾福利,
對之嗤之以鼻,Amtrak 自然成為開刀對象。

粗體嗰班唔係都有唔少係共和黨嘅咩?

S3BL100 發表於 2015-5-15 14:18

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粗體嗰班唔係都有唔少係共和黨嘅咩?

一半半啦,其實東北岸唔少州份都係偏藍,相當數目(但唔係全部)中產白領同專業人士都係民主黨支持者。

對於中部同南部一班得閒只會食 Texas BBQ、星期日上教堂、走去反對學校教進化論的民眾來講,東北部的白領同專業人士,已經係「elite」喇。

另:上面提到的安全裝置,係 positive train control:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-positive-train-control-05150514-story.html

U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) has been fighting to keep the 2015 deadline in place, against Republicans who want to grant a five- to seven-year delay. She contends that if Metrolink can comply with the requirement, other railroads can too.
“The railroad industry has been lobbying furiously to delay the mandate, Feinstein said this week. “In my view, that is extremely reckless policy.”

S3BL100 發表於 2015-5-16 12:35

推一推文,貼幾篇延伸閱讀

Conservative Host Sandy Rios Thinks Amtrak Engineer's Sexuality Is 'A Factor' In Crash
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20 ... trak_n_7286360.html
(班保守派真係叻唔切,走出來抽水話列車司機的同性戀性取向是意外因素之一,簡直令人嘆為觀止:L )

This is why Americans can’t have nice trains
http://america.aljazeera.com/opi ... m_medium=SocialFlow

The Plot Against Trains
http://www.newyorker.com/news/da ... plot-against-trains
What we have, uniquely in America, is a political class, and an entire political party, devoted to the idea that any money spent on public goods is money misplaced, not because the state goods might not be good but because they would distract us from the larger principle that no ultimate good can be found in the state.... The ideology of individual autonomy is, for good or ill, so powerful that it demands cars where trains would save lives, just as it places assault weapons in private hands, despite the toll they take in human lives. Trains have to be resisted, even if it means more pollution and massive inefficiency and falling ever further behind in the amenities of life

大家可以嫌棄上面幾篇全部都係左派自由派傳媒的文章,但係佢地都全部反映緊實況,係班保守派不食人間煙火。

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238X 發表於 2015-5-21 10:13

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咁我都幾矛盾,一方面支持起鐵路,另一方面又支持放寬槍械管制,等人有自由對抗政府的能力。

AV115 發表於 2015-5-21 14:42

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一半半啦,其實東北岸唔少州份都係偏藍,相當數目(但唔係全部)中產白領同專業人士都係民主黨支持者。

對於中部同南部一班得閒只會食 Texas BBQ、星期日上教堂、走去反對學校教進化論的民眾來講,東北部的白領同專業人士,已 ...
一方面窮果班白人唔鐘意 Amtrak;另一方面有錢果班金主又好多係同汽車工業同埋石油工業等息息相關,造就共和黨更冇理由支持向任何公交投放資源。
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