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Boeing 747-8 vs A380: A titanic tussle

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billlmf 發表於 2006-2-16 03:29 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式

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我頭先係Flight International入面scarch到關於747-8 vs A380既文章,入面都有describe兩者既差距~~

Boeing 747-8 vs A380: A titanic tussle

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Cathay 888...clear to land rwy 26 Right
tramadmirer 發表於 2006-2-16 07:22 | 顯示全部樓層
Still 747-8 look more smart
AVD1 發表於 2006-2-16 17:45 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 tramadmirer 於 2006-2-16 07:22 發表
Still 747-8 look more smart

認同
A380 個樣好笨重咁 ~~~
LJ7006 = MF5119 = AVD1
kychung 發表於 2006-2-16 21:22 | 顯示全部樓層

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我自已就覺得Airbus ge講法有好多都係夾硬黎

引用自該網站:
「The new model enters service 40 years after the 747-100, and has the same old wing, same old cockpit as the -400, and same old cabin – there is no improvement from the 1960s comfort standard,」 says Carcaillet. 「There is no development potential, and no engine choice,」 he adds.

"same old wing"....呢樣野肯定唔係啦....A380 ge機翼設計都唔見得有咩嶄新可言
不過波音自己都認747-8 ge機翼係有D輸蝕

"same old cookpit"....佢憑咩咁肯定先....況且而家用緊果個都無咩特別問題
用番差唔多ge cookpit....咁響training方面又簡單得多....反而係個優點

"same old cabin"....佢梗係無見過787個cabin係點樣....佢似乎當波音係白痴
744 ge cabin design到而家為止都改過唔少野啦

"no engine choice"....暫時係je....
咁人地737全部都剩係得CFM engine揀....咪又係咁賣得....


p.s.聲明先:我咁講唔係幫波音講野
南粵急行 rail.kychung.com
rickywk 發表於 2006-2-16 21:51 | 顯示全部樓層
新o既744ER已經改用777系機艙內設計,例如Qantas o個幾隻744ER,中華o個隻好似都係用777設計...
lam926 發表於 2006-2-18 00:45 | 顯示全部樓層
其實文中提到o既748比a380低13%耗油(per seat)
已經得到好多航空公司o既垂青
hr8473 發表於 2006-2-18 23:22 | 顯示全部樓層

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原帖由 lam926 於 2006-2-18 00:45 發表
其實文中提到o既748比a380低13%耗油(per seat)
已經得到好多航空公司o既垂青


喂! 架747-8都仲未整,你點知747-8一定耗油少過A380?
如果你話777耗油少過A346就係事實。不過點解近年航空迷咁
鍾意討論一o的未知o既事呢?
akboy 發表於 2006-2-18 23:40 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 lam926 於 2006-2-18 00:45 發表
其實文中提到o既748比a380低13%耗油(per seat)
已經得到好多航空公司o既垂青


"interested" didn't mean anything
When the A380 started to develop, many airlines, including CX, said that they are "interested"
But until now, not many "interested" airlines decided to buy it

Oh ya, maths is always magic
Boeing and Airbus always claim superior to the other side, including the fuel efficient
But please do mind that they always use data that has the most advantage to them or most disadvantage to the other side
And such "advantage" flight path is often impractical
These data are just like the data provided by the car companies on how "efficient" their cars are
Believe it or not?
lam926 發表於 2006-2-19 00:01 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 akboy 於 2006-2-18 23:40 發表


"interested" didn't mean anything
When the A380 started to develop, many airlines, including CX, said that they are "interested"
But until now, not many "interested&q ...


咁又係o既,通常講同做出泥都有差別
不過咁喎,文中提到o既都未必係唔岩啵
因為,748係原用747o既設計(大圍野泥講)
就算係用777o既cabin design,都唔係未試過,袋鼠公司o個幾部er就係一個好例子
同埋748唔係話咩"空談之物",i mean 唔同787 等未做過出泥o既機種
再者748可視為744 series o既 adv,所以我覺得數字上o既計算都唔係話因要比info 人睇而亂吹囉~~
呢d只係我覺得嫁咋,唔岩希望大家指教一下
akboy 發表於 2006-2-19 00:15 | 顯示全部樓層

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With the new wings, the aerodynamic characteristics has changed quite greatly, and such external change is different from internal changes that you need to prove it again, just like the evolution of 747 from 100 to 200, to 300, to 400, and now to 8

There are of course improvement, but the percentage is questionable
Remember that the A340-600's claimed improvement didn't meet it's target and trigger concerns from airlines?
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