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KZ2356 發表於 2005-6-28 15:16 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式

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wally 發表於 2005-6-28 16:51 | 顯示全部樓層

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First if you make 81/281A to move to 尖東東鐵站 plus new 81B, would there be enough space there??? I don’t think 尖東東鐵站 is a B/T anyway... Also, after moving to 尖東東鐵站 they still have to go via 廣東道 which make the already overcrowded 廣東道 to get worse which I believe is not a good idea…
Secondly, would there be enough space at 沙田圍 to accommodate a new route as it is already overcrowded during meal time when E42/87A come to沙田圍 for lunch??? Although you move 87A to 圓洲角 but E42 will still be there… Which I believe is hard to have another route there and it would make meal time even more crowed at 沙田圍 and hard to park…
Thirdly, moving 87A/83X to 圓洲角 and make 83X a all day operation. Would it be a good move??? 圓洲角 B/T is already planned for other purpose and I believe it would not be likely to be able to turn 圓洲角 back as a B/T… I believe it would be a good move to make 83X a all day operation as 89C/89X would benefit from it for faster journey but I think 圓洲角 may not be the right place for it... I think it is needed to find somewhere else to accommodate 83X...
Forth, I believe it may not be a good move to move 284 to 石門馬鐵站 main reason being that 284 already have a heavy demand on both direction all day all year around due to the routing of the route… Making it go via 石門 would means that 284 would have to cope with even more demand even with Double Decker bus… At the same time, making 82X to have to same move may not be the best idea of all since it routing would be far longer and also going to  石門, you first have to go via 濱景花園 which makes pax think the routing is not direct enough…
Lastly, I don’t really see the reason of moving 48X/49X B/T as I don’t think it would make much different, as you have said already that the fees would be the same. But moving as you have planned may increase the demand of 城隧轉車站 which is already overcrowded now…
Some solution could be made there… changing the routing of 281A is not really needed as it is currently going via 彌敦道 already and the demand currently is not bad… Same as 81… I think 81/281A shouldn’t be changed… Avout 81C, having 81B would really help 81C to reduce its journey time and I think it is a really good idea… But would you notice that 富豪花園 will not have any bus to 彌敦道 as they had 81C before according to your plan. So would it be possible to move 81B to 石門馬鐵站 as that move will make 81B able to cover all the area which 81C operate before and also not to make 沙田圍 overcrowded… At the same time, 87A stay as it is now and move is not needed… 82X should stay at 濱景花園 and stay as it is now but instead to have 84M go via石門馬鐵站 in both direction and no longer go via City One… This solution maybe better for them to make 84M go towards 愉翠苑 after石門馬鐵站 and towards Prince Of Wales Hospital…
About 284, how about open up a new route 284P and timetable as follow???
沙田市中心
284         0640-0000        6-12
284P        0634-2354        6-12
濱景花園
284        0625-0000        6-12
石門馬鐵站
284P        0621-2356        6-12
By doing this, pax along 大涌橋路 will benefit a higher sequence 284/284P serves which on their co-operative timetable, a 284/284P would leave 沙田市中心 around every 3-6 mins while the 2 routes meet at  第一城, it will be similar, around 3-6mins and I have given 10 mins there for 284P to get itself from 石門馬鐵站 to大涌橋路…
Furthermore, do you think that KMB would be able to run 682S as NWFB is already operating 682??? This idea is not bad but I think give it to NWFB would be better...
Having said that, changing the routing of 86C is a good idea but same as 81B, I think 86A need to find a B/T around 石門馬鐵站 as that would be the only way to cover all the area which 86C previously served...
And the change of 89X/89C are pretty good too as it would make the journey faster...

[ Last edited by wally on 2005-6-28 at 17:00 ]
lf5499 發表於 2005-6-28 17:15 | 顯示全部樓層
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CK4013 發表於 2005-6-28 17:57 | 顯示全部樓層
本人並不清楚閣下為何把48X,49X沙田總站互調
唔知是否同40x不經源禾路有關
但係兩線收費不一,即係有人會變相會加價($6.6>$7.5)

另外,83x為何上完黃泥頭又要落番圓洲角做總站?
我相信可能係想食埋愉翠苑既客,取代原有89X經愉翠苑
但係89x經埋愉翠苑可以上大老山隧道
一定快過搭83x上埋黃泥頭(即係夾硬要乘客上埋黃泥頭)
雖然89x收得貴過83x
但83x咁延長法,加價都唔出奇!


80/80P,又可以無端端減價O既?
原因又可在(路線有更改???)

281A在尖東東鐵站開出後
經梳士巴利道、九龍公園徑、廣東道之後
是否經佐敦道出彌敦道呢?
如果係咁的話,原有在彌敦道(尖沙咀段)乘客咪要行好遠先搭到

本人所見閣下之建議,同閣下所提出既
"馬鐵已開通,某些路線根本不需繞經大圍。所以要重組。"
真係唔似有太大關係?

閣下是否為延長而延長,為重組而重組,為減價而減價呢?

[ Last edited by CK4013 on 2005-6-28 at 18:02 ]
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278x 發表於 2005-6-28 18:46 | 顯示全部樓層

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點解49X加左價?
依家都唔駛補錢ga喎
GK9636 發表於 2005-6-28 19:58 | 顯示全部樓層
81 延去尖東即係變相加價?
會有幾多人肯站站停去到尖咀?

81>1/1A/6/6A有轉乘優惠仲好
GK9636@ATENVIRO
北角---九龍城 發表於 2005-6-28 21:36 | 顯示全部樓層
85a同85b客源根本唔同
冇可能有聯合班次
alexero 發表於 2005-6-29 19:10 | 顯示全部樓層

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[ref=283699]CK4013[/ref]  在 2005-6-28 17:57 發表:

另外,83x為何上完黃泥頭又要落番圓洲角做總站?
我相信可能係想食埋愉翠苑既客,取代原有89X經愉翠苑
但係89x經埋愉翠苑可以上大老山隧道
一定快過搭83x上埋黃泥頭(即係夾硬要乘客上埋黃泥頭)
雖然89x收得貴過83x
但83x咁延長法,加價都唔出奇!


83X同80X都係由觀塘碼頭開出,都係收$5.8
但80X全程14.8公里
而83X只係12.4公里
如果83X延長至愉翠苑,應該都未駛加價

不過俾著我係愉翠苑居民
肯定反對呢個建議... 無喇喇要兜上去
班次睇怕亦都會比現時的89X更疏
平得$0.4咁大把,梗係寧願要條密D快D既線
有膽做,無膽認 - Down Down NWFB!
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