原帖由 張偉沖 於 2008-7-24 23:18 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
環保唔係你所想的咁簡單,
如果真係要全面推行環保, 你應該連車都唔應該搭, 只可以踏單車或步行;; J! k2 u% Z; A) y7 j! ]
你應該連冷氣都唔可以開, 你只可以開風扇......你連一個膠袋都唔可以用, 你只可以f+ H, |8 O3 o) g0 F
用環保袋等等等等.
It seems that you got certain qualification on environmental protection and conservation.
Yes, it seems.
However, your point doesn't hold weight.
原帖由 053h4 於 2008-7-24 21:18 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
經濟增長的地區, 好似香港, 用油有無減少呢?
而所謂必不可少的美國, 反而少了3.3%
話就話D有地區無車唔得, 經濟差咪一樣用公交hkitalk.netv$ t3 E) N7 P/ I
而發展中國家, 汽車增長非常快
而最近出現危機的越南, 電單車增長亦非常高hkitalk.net( |& ], Z& J6 d1 K$ O, m6 s
而越南對進口電單車的需求亦相當高www.hkitalk.net( _- `6 Y. z: Q0 L, i0 y
車, 根本係世界身份的表現, 只係品種可能有唔同hkitalk.net- T) U7 d( i$ A2 o) U
只要有錢就會買好一點
With proper planning and public transport service, car ownership and usage can be suppressed.
The average car ownership in the well off inner suburb is around one per family;
but the figure rises to two to three per family when it comes to the poor outer suburb.
The main reason is that inner suburb has much better public transport service and the living environment is more compact.
[ 本帖最後由 Kaix 於 2008-7-25 11:14 編輯 ]
原帖由 hjhj 於 2008-7-25 02:03 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
繁忙道路收費能否令加車率減少,
要視乎收費是多少
現有使用繁忙道路收費的城市是否未能有效減少汔車進入繁忙地區?
You should consider which kind of people drive in Hong Kong and compare it with other cities.
原帖由 053h4 於 2008-7-25 11:52 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
研究認為, 收入在10000美元以上地區, 車的需求會由絕對需要, 變為"相對需要", 包括"related to
status / social comparison", 整體happies 不變
http://www.tinbergen.nl/discussionpapers/00076.pdf ...
I have never denied that.
If public transport is adequately provided, people will tend to leave their cars at home but they still own a car.
[ 本帖最後由 Kaix 於 2008-7-25 12:59 編輯 ]
原帖由 053h4 於 2008-7-25 11:25 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
,新加坡証明, 係可以控制私家車的使用量
Much more medium income population in Singapore own a car.
Do you think those extremely rich people will leave their cars at home and take public transport??
And what is the social status for those 5% who drive in Hong Kong??
And, if you think the rocket high petrol price doesn't reduce car usage as you said earlier,
why does the congestion charge??
[ 本帖最後由 Kaix 於 2008-7-25 13:05 編輯 ]
都係加稅加到佢地放棄汽車為止啦
其它地方我唔知，但係香港根本無容納一部私家車的空間
無錯，係一部都嫌多
真係要渣車的話，請考慮唔爆車唔畀行出街的Car Sharing做法