SSBT 發表於 2008-12-10 11:09

70k 真係有好多人由華明搭去上水火車站 ..
我諗樓主真係未搭過哩條線 ..

而家咁樣改行大頭嶺, 唔入火車站,
同行返以前 70K 同舊路有咩分別?
我就係記得以前就係兜寶石湖路入石湖墟"西",
但係果時客量就唔掂 ..

歸根究底就係而家北區區內線設計唔掂,
要重組就應該全部一齊重組,
唔應該淨係郁一條 70K 啦 ..

AD18 發表於 2008-12-10 11:23

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70k 真係有好多人由華明搭去上水火車站 ..
我諗樓主真係未搭過哩條線 ..

而家咁樣改行大頭嶺, 唔入火車站,
同行返以前 70K 同舊路有咩分別?
我就係記得以前就係兜寶石湖路入石湖墟"西",
但係果時客量就唔掂 ..

歸根究底就係而家北區區內線設計唔掂,
要重組就應該全部一齊重組,
唔應該淨係郁一條 70K 啦 ..
70K 呢條線
非繁時都至少有 20-30 人係粉嶺南一帶搭去上水火車站
我次次跟開熟人車 , 一停呢個站都用左接近一分鐘

朝早返學果陣 , 真係頂到爆晒閘
成車人入面至少有 70% 既客係上水火車站落車
而家兜左入清河既 , 繁時已經要用多 7-8 分鐘
再咁兜法等同趕客

*好坦白講 , 佢連 70K 既不同時段既客流都係一無所知

SaintAngolmois 發表於 2008-12-10 18:54

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70K 呢條線
非繁時都至少有 20-30 人係粉嶺南一帶搭去上水火車站
我次次跟開熟人車 , 一停呢個站都用左接近一分鐘

朝早返學果陣 , 真係頂到爆晒閘
成車人入面至少有 70% 既客係上水火車站落車
而家兜左入清河既 ,...
下午放學時間
華明、華慧園都有不少客上70K到上水廣場一帶
聯和墟都有不少客搭70K回華明

AD18 發表於 2008-12-10 18:57

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下午放學時間
華明、華慧園都有不少客上70K到上水廣場一帶
聯和墟都有不少客搭70K回華明
聯和墟相對就真係無咁多

下午放學時間就真係有唔少田家炳既學生坐 70K 去上水一帶
就係佢地班客就可以令 70K 要企人

SaintAngolmois 發表於 2008-12-10 19:00

原帖由 AD18 於 10/12/2008 18:57 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif

聯和墟相對就真係無咁多

下午放學時間就真係有唔少田家炳既學生坐 70K 去上水一帶
就係佢地班客就可以令 70K 要企人
一兜入清河
他們就沒"特快"落上水的歌仔唱
更何況樓主的建議:( :(

AD18 發表於 2008-12-10 19:01

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一兜入清河
他們就沒"特快"落上水的歌仔唱
更何況樓主的建議:( :(
佢果個建議
至少令 70K 既行車時間大幅增加 15-20 分鐘
仲耐過 273A

*睇怕佢都要坐番十次八次 70K 先知堆客量係點

SaintAngolmois 發表於 2008-12-10 19:07

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佢果個建議
至少令 70K 既行車時間大幅增加 15-20 分鐘
仲耐過 273A

*睇怕佢都要坐番十次八次 70K 先知堆客量係點
最不可能的是兜入丙崗、大頭嶺一些沒人搭車的地方
既增加行車時間
也大大拉疏70K班次
使客源流失

hkstudent 發表於 2008-12-12 20:56

Since I cannot edit my post, I would like to post it here.

Second edition of 70K and the first edition of 273A:

1. Split 273A to 273A and 273E

Route of 70K:
Sheung Shui B/T or Tsui Lai B/T --> (Ting Ping Road)-->(Ma Sik Road)-->(Wo Muk Road)-->Luen Wo Hui B/T-->(Sha Tau kok Road)-->(San Wan Road)-->(Jockey Club Road)-->(Pak Wo Road)-->(Wah Ming Road / Yat Ming Road)-->(Lui Ming Road)-->Wah Ming B/T

And a reverse route is set which 70K will no longer be a circular route.

Suggested fee:
SHS<-->LWH :3.2
LWH<-->Wah Ming: 3.2
Full fare: 3.7

Route of 273E:
Choi Yuen-->SSGSS----------->(All way along Pak Wo Road)-->(Wah Ming Road)-->(Yat Ming Road)-->(All way along Pak Wo Road)
Buses:
share half with 273A



Advantage:
Half of the 273 route will serve as a fast route which can substitue the change of 70K to not via Pak Wo Road.

Increase the speed of 273 series and decrease the time of traveling for the pessengers from SHS to Fanling or Wah Ming

70K may lower its price which can increase competitveness with minibuses by a lower price.

The travelling time of 70K from SHS to Wah Ming will be lowered.

The pressure on Wah Ming B/T will be lowered



Disadvantage:

May lead to 273A and 273E arrive at a stop together and not utilise the resources(which it is common for current 273A due to conststant stopings)

The pessengers in the Jockey Club Road will not be served(Which it may serve by other 7X lines by a half way fare)

[ 本帖最後由 hkstudent 於 2008-12-13 09:22 編輯 ]

AD18 發表於 2008-12-13 22:11

原帖由 hkstudent 於 2008-12-12 20:56 發表 http://hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
Since I cannot edit my post, I would like to post it here.


Route of 70K:
Sheung Shui B/T or Tsui Lai B/T --> (Ting Ping Road)-->(Ma Sik Road)-->(Wo Muk Road)-->Luen Wo Hui B/T-->(Sha Tau kok Road)-->(San Wan Road)-->(Jockey Club Road)-->(Pak Wo Road)-->(Wah Ming Road / Yat Ming Road)-->(Lui Ming Road)-->Wah Ming B/T

我想問你
咁心誠, 壁峰路一帶, 甚至粉嶺樓一帶既客點算

同埋粗字果段都好迂迴囉

hkstudent 發表於 2008-12-14 09:22

原帖由 AD18 於 2008-12-13 10:11 PM 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif

我想問你
咁心誠, 壁峰路一帶, 甚至粉嶺樓一帶既客點算

同埋粗字果段都好迂迴囉
I would like to ask that what is the shortest and fastest route from Ting Ping to LWH B/T or LWH?

Why I make this new route is because of avoiding those long lights and don't want the line to go on the same road for two times.

Please remember that the waiting time of the junction on Jockey Club Road and So kwun Po Road is about 2 minutes , the roundabout in the Sha Tau Kok Road need to wait for 30 second and the junction in the fan Leng Lau Road is about 1.5 minutes.

If I use the new line, it will help for saving half of these time.

Also, this line may serve the Royal Green residents.

For you say my line is too messy, by the calculation of the map,
the distance of my line is 2.7 KM where the old line needs 3.6 KM to LWH


And for those pessengers, the will be served by other 70s lines or maybe even those minibus

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