原帖由 superay 於 2009-6-30 18:34 發表 http://hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
裝了voith就會無od波，近似當年超豪的case
也許可以裝ZF波箱
呢點就要adl肯唔肯搞…會涉及訂單數目的問題。
如果唔大改又有od的, Allison已經得, 不過就輪到個retarder係後加。
香港由Super Pointer Dart 到宜家E200 Dart 都有用Voith D854 4前速波箱, 小冊子無可能因為呢個係Optinal o既配搭, 又或者英國o個邊少要求要呢隻波箱所以佢唔落spec sheet, 因為我見英國d E200 Dart通常都係用4汽缸ISB+ Allison 波箱, 唔似香港要大匹數同埋大波箱
ADL 係一間好有彈性o既公司, 只要佢做得到而你唔介意比多d錢佢都會做比你, 你要Voith 854/ ZF 6HP 一定冇問題, 只係將E300 套野放番入去.
PS: MTR E200 Dart 絕對有4波, 只係2-3-4波轉得比駛快, 有時會聽唔出
原帖由 小角色 於 2009-6-29 01:44 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
上星期同其他廠家口中得知九巴又有新車...聽講會有18架雙層SCANIA...5十幾架E500..100架單層及雙層富豪...
而富豪會用WRIGHT車身~
原帖由 petcity 於 2009-6-29 20:28 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
九巴批車好似係珠海砌
ATEU訂單應該係55架，另外好似ASC都有加單
而批雙層Scania係ASU
睇到e個tropic個陣,心裏好希望有E200份,可惜再一次落空了...
不過有五十幾部E500都好,起碼又粉碎左先前咩咩同ADL反面之談,:L
仲有,而家又訂ASU,又加訂ASC,睇黎Scina有機擠身九巴三大車廠都唔奇?:lol
ADL=55
55xATEU
Scania=18+?
18xASU
?xASC
Volvo=100
60xAVBW
40xB7RLE
不過綜觀,而家富豪新車數目大大領先,
衷心希望下一張係ADL E200!
不過我仲有個顧慮,九巴而家訂的新單層又入ASC又入B7RLE,全部係12米,
似乎用左原單層車線上唔太靈活,
承認ASB絕對並非短單層的好選擇,
所以if九巴再訂E200,我諗會係訂10.6米唔係11.3米,
possible?:P
原帖由 93A_S3_6:30am 於 2009-6-30 21:51 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
睇到e個tropic個陣,心裏好希望有E200份,可惜再一次落空了...
不過有五十幾部E500都好,起碼又粉碎左先前咩咩同ADL反面之談,:L
仲有,而家又訂ASU,又加訂ASC,睇黎Scina有機擠身九巴三大車廠都唔奇?:lol
ADL=5 ...
搭住MTR D E200先囉.....
出年囉... I think :lol斷舊估佢唔會諗定將批三菱同Dart仔又續多年呀化? , be honest本身而家間間廠D Dart同三菱都只係啱啱夠洗.....
同埋雞拿講真你又幾可見到有短陣車 , 初頭有人講有成廿部10.6M都嚇到O左一O , even你係Britain D ominicity , N230配original Body都未見過有短陣....
but.....香港路面Design同英國似到十足十 , MAN even佢有短陣( i mean 9.5-10m既model )九記個款都唔會買啦 , Benz你更加諗都唔使諗 , 雞拿又係...Volvo , 除非出返B6LE囉 :L
好 , even 雞拿同Dennis comapre , 你話做短尾跨短陣車邊個會啱用D先......我超難imagine 9.8M既雞仔/B7RLE/B10BLE , Becuz肯定又係大轆, 尾跨長...
講真係英國貨真係先做到靚兼啱用既細單層 , Optare SOLO , Versa , E200 Dart.....
佢今次買得K230好明顯係想Replace Dart仔既地位 , Scania有D位真係贏左Dart仔.....陣靚 , 唔洗隊尿 , 原廠engine(康偈易殘) , 6波車(gearbox唔會太傷)
加上今時今日九記想要平野 , 傳聞雞拿今次堆雞仔係造左個靚價出黎 , 你諗下 , K230/ Caetano車身 , 一定算平野....
but唔好唔記得 Scania出唒名小毛病多......加上如果想九記Dart仔神話延續下去既版友 , 應該慶幸51,53,203,208,211,14C,2D連短雞仔都行唔到.....叫做全新既Dart仔都仲有chance
出年囉...我都想E200出現.....:lol
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原帖由 petcity 於 2009-7-1 01:03 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
但ASB出咁耐以黎，有Dart仔退左咩？
學B0板篇文講，替雙層就真(由開始話九巴想入返單層
已經有人咁講)
E200Dart我都想佢係九巴出現，但唔需要咁樣讚到e200Dart正到冇
得比架:L ...
be honest , 我冇讚到E200正到冇得比喎 , 只不過以HK的環境細單層英國車的確略勝一疇 , 大單層我認為Citaro , Omincity , N230 , B10BLE , B7RLE呢D一定嬴架喎
我都希望好似你咁講 , K230只係替雙層 , 單層既Replacement真係另有其車啦....
原帖由 LRT1027 於 2009-6-30 08:57 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
如果買批 Super Pointer Dart 9.8m 單門版(其實有冇 9.8m 版本?)
No. The Super Dart was only available at 11.3m. It's irrelevant anyway as it has gone out of production since 2007.
原帖由 aa2_dart 於 2009-6-30 17:52 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
be honest , 我冇讚到E200正到冇得比喎 , 只不過以HK的環境細單層英國車的確略勝一疇 , 大單層我認為Citaro , Omincity , N230 , B10BLE , B7RLE呢D一定嬴架喎
Only partly though, if you are talking about a like-for-like replacement of the AA and AM, then yes a small E200Dart or a Solo will be a good fit. Yes at first sight taking the 10.6m K230UBs look like a silly decision, but one should bear in mind that the Scanias (and the B7RLE for that matter) is a more durable vehicle and easier to keep it over a longer lifespan. You say smaller buses are more suited for HK, but that doesn't seem to bother Citybus who has quite a lot of MANs operating in HK Island, where the roads, if anything, are even less favourable.
When the time comes KMB need to get smaller buses, the E200Darts should come. At the moment, of course they have something else in mind when they bought all those Scanias and B7RLEs.
原帖由 NV58 於 2009-7-1 02:21 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
Only partly though, if you are talking about a like-for-like replacement of the AA and AM, then yes a small E200Dart or a Solo will be a good fit. Yes at first sight taking the 10.6m K230UBs look li ...
Yaeh , i argee with u =]
but 你講到城巴MAN , that's Different story....
買佢地返黎個陣原意都係諗定行D要唔少既客量加密班次而用Double Decker係會蝕+路面唔太差+窄既線 , 個D 5C , 25A, 25C , 48 , 529 , 95C.....Even 個陣連182都有試過咁做
個陣 3B, 11,12,12A,12M,47A(now M47) , 41A , 314 , 260, 76, 511都主力用Dart仔 / B6.....
但去到2000開始年呢D細SIZE既單層(Dart仔 / B6)一批批咁走 , 一年一年咁車隊數目銳減 , 開始唔夠車用, 有D線你用短雙層真係會蝕 , 單層得返批Plaxton+土炮 B6LE , NL262....
MAN又大馬力比起B6 , 加上3B , 11 , 12 , 12A, 12M , 41A , 511路面又勉勉強強/Just fit 行到 , 咪變相轉左用MAN.....
我諗去到今時今日呢個Moment , 如果批Dart/B6仲係度堆MAN唔洗行到咁盡.....
回上面 , I Mean 細單層真係要E200 Dart ,大單層 N230, B10BLE , B7RLE , Citaro , 實蠃英國貨 , 英國D所謂Heavy Duty , Full Size單層比起D N230, B10BLE , B7RLE , Citaro 英國D E300, Tempo 實輸蝕架喎....