MTM service cannot meet their target...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri_h0pLql4Q我真的不知道是 MTM 的問題還是政府的問題了。我現在只可以說一句：MTR 早就不應該投標去經營墨爾本的鉄路，那邊涉及到太多不可預見的因素，由其是政黨的角力和工會的勢力！ 無論點, MTR都有不可推卸的責任,
因為係佢自己走出去, 爭個經營權返黎, 無人拎枝槍迫佢GE,
就算設備差, 定係政府廢, 呢D都係MTR一早已知的情況,
MTR投得返黎, 即係代表佢自己本身覺得搞得店.
而家搞唔店, 總無可能將個責任推卸比其他人就算.
或者咁講啦, 係香港呢個地方, 政策太過傾銷於MTR啦,
一出到其他地方, 原來MTR都係不外如是.
當日, MTM由CONNEX營運, 大家都罵佢廢, 期待MTR上場云云,
今日, MTM由MTR營運, 大家都應該以同等態度對待, 而唔係盲目為MTR找下台階. 原帖由 AVW56 於 2010-4-5 09:29 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
無論點, MTR都有不可推卸的責任,
因為係佢自己走出去, 爭個經營權返黎, 無人拎枝槍迫佢GE,
就算設備差, 定係政府廢, 呢D都係MTR一早已知的情況,
MTR投得返黎, 即係代表佢自己本身覺得搞得店.
而家搞唔店, 總無可能 ...
我反而覺得 MTR 現在的狀況有 D 像迪士尼的情形：水土不服。畢竟香港的營運環境和人的素質跟外國比還是比較簡單。你在一個溫室長大的人肯定不會想到外面的世界原來是那麽複雜的。我並不是要為 MTR 找下台堦，而是要“逼”她成長，“逼”她磨練自己，希望最後能成功把港鉄的高效率的營運模式帶到外國。（如果你有用過外國的鉄路系統，你就會知道 MTR 招牌並不是假的，只是他習慣了在溫室長大的環境和給比較簡單的營運環境給寵壞了。） 原帖由 AVW56 於 2010-4-5 09:29 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
或者咁講啦, 係香港呢個地方, 政策太過傾銷於MTR啦,
一出到其他地方, 原來MTR都係不外如是.
What is the logic behind???
[ 本帖最後由 Kaix 於 2010-4-5 21:49 編輯 ] 原帖由 Chi_Hang 於 2010-4-5 10:03 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
畢竟香港的營運環境和人的素質跟外國比還是比較簡單。你在一個溫室長大的人肯定不會想到外面的世界原來是那麽複雜的。
At least we don't see gangs throwing rocks to the train, forcing the door open on a moving train or riding on the roof of the train in Hong Kong.
We also don't see tracks and sleepers that haven't been replaced for 100 years and drivers taking a train out of service just because of uncomfortable cabin seat in Hong Kong.
In Hong Kong, we see "No eating and drinking" and sometimes "No sitting on the floor".
In Melbourne, I see "Ride the inside, not the topside", "Don't rock the train", "Buy a ticket", etc.:L
Many Hong Kong ppl are just greenhouse frogs and they have no way to survive overseas.
Here is one of the many violent incidents on the transport network.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t0tsIpa9kY
Ridiculous Myki Smartcard project: 3 years behind schedule, 350 million dollar over budget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfYIND-cnto&feature=related
Crumbling train network: bridges, tracks, sleepers dated back to the late 1800s:L
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joHxQ7AjDDY&feature=related
[ 本帖最後由 Kaix 於 2010-4-5 22:03 編輯 ] 原帖由 Kaix 於 2010-4-5 20:27 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
At least we don't see gangs throwing rocks to the train, forcing the door open on a moving train or riding on the roof of the train in Hong Kong.
We also don't see tracks and sleepers that haven't ...
Yes true! We also don't see the trains' windows are full of graffiti or the floor is full of rubbish in Hong Kong's trains! if someone does those things in Hong Kong, it will be the news in the next day newspapers or on 24 hr TV news channels.
However, in foreign countries, it happens almost everyday. Take for example, the brand new bus rolls out in Sydney just for a week or even only few days, the back windows are already sketched! However, people are felt nothing of those incident since it always happens.
MTR needs to learn on how tackle those problems since those things are very rarely happened in Hong Kong. Of course she also needs to learn how to deal with politics and unions since they will really affect the daily operations of the services.Those things so far I do not see they really affect daily operations in Hong Kong
[ 本帖最後由 Chi_Hang 於 2010-4-5 21:16 編輯 ] 原帖由 Chi_Hang 於 2010-4-5 21:11 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
However, in foreign countries, it happens almost everyday. Take for example, the brand new bus rolls out in Sydney just for a week or even only few days, the back windows are already sketched! However, people are felt nothing of those incident since it always happens.
Door not closing is also normal:lol
Melbourne's '3rd world standard' horror railways: train door not closing, brake failures, bridges...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK2s8Yp1LUs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXT1ZojCQpU&NR=1
Imagine if this happens in Hong Kong:lol
[ 本帖最後由 Kaix 於 2010-4-5 22:04 編輯 ] 原帖由 053h4 於 2010-4-5 23:40 發表 http://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/images/common/back.gif
呢個的確係事實
小如車站廁所, 閘門
非繁時班次安排同減速措施
大如一些臨時限速措施, 飛站等事項都沒有對傳媒公佈
另外, 重有票價調整問題
唔洗講咁遠, 深圳發生呢d事, 係會比人插到飛起 ...
我就未見過有公司連一小段臨時限速措施都要發新聞稿
而其他好多你提及嘅雞毛蒜皮野MTR都有向傳媒公佈喎
同埋透明度同服務營理品質係兩回事
有板友話"政策太過傾銷於MTR啦, 一出到其他地方, 原來MTR都係不外如是"
即係政策太過傾銷於MTR, 令香港MTR好準時好安全??
What's the logic for this????
根本就係有人唔了解墨爾本外判鐵路嘅方式，
以為墨爾本鐵路好似香港鐵路咁公司可以全權操控所有野
墨爾本鐵路嘅基建、車輛全部係政府擁有，
維修、買新車係政府決定，MTR只可以寫report催政府做野
早前MTR話希望網內所有危橋可以今年7月陸續開展搶修工程，
但同政府商議完就變成2018年前陸續完成搶修:L
係澳洲，你估可以話請人就請人，話洗錢就洗錢??
享受慣香港雄厚財政儲備同盈餘嘅香港人係唔會明白
係澳洲，起條車站行人天橋已經要又剪綵又記者會架喇，
一個爛鬼新站啟用大陣象到連州長都要去參觀同講話，
換石屎枕木2年先換左16公里
澳洲其實都想起高鐵，不過冇錢...
[ 本帖最後由 Kaix 於 2010-4-6 08:04 編輯 ]