原帖由 leslie 於 2006-5-9 23:52 發表
哈哈,果個 stoptextbully.com 依家攪到要暫時close網,真多得考試局唔少....
I guess why they entertain HKEA's request to close their website. It is not their fraud.
Is that site based on HK, and Did the HK gov. shut it down, if it's not based in HK, do they have the legal rights to do so?
原帖由 leslie 於 2006-5-9 23:52 發表
哈哈,果個 stoptextbully.com 依家攪到要暫時close網,真多得考試局唔少....
BTW: TOEFL is for foreigners, and to tell you the truth, TOFEL exam is somewhat harder then the exam taken by local student like us, as I was working in the admissions office of my previous job, I've received memo to especially look into TOFEL score, and to heavily scruternize them (especially on HK/ Taiwan student), and if they are not up to par, then, they cannot get into the normal level of college studies and have to either take ESL or entrance exam...Btw: to tell you are really harsh reality, Entrance exam are not really design for locals, because in our state, we are some what protected from that system...the entrance exam in some Unis are design to fail foreign students (especailly some public U).Sorry to tell you the harsh reality, but this is what I did for work one summer and it's also an experience I've heard among IS.
原帖由 053h4 於 2006-5-7 11:58 發表
無錯, 如果英美公考試真係咁可靠
英美大學(特別是英國)就唔洗咁自己搞入學試
而無論那一個公開試, 都會想盡方法避免人出貓
當年友人考TOEFL, 佢同我講, 一個試場最少有兩 set 問題
兩份卷的MC題目的次序 ...
[ 本帖最後由 art0925 於 2006-5-12 04:17 編輯 ]
原帖由 blueblue 於 2006-5-10 09:23 發表
As this issue is the result of carelessness of civil servants in HKEA, why shouldn't they be punished?
The number of civil servants should be further reduced as the efficiency of most of the ...
To 炸彈人先生：
減人效率可能更低，因為官僚係一個超難改變既
生態系統，就算消滅哂佢地都會有另一批產生。
任何人、物都有惰性，唔係鬧兩句，炒人就可以
解決，甚至改制度都唔可以永久解決。
如果我係你，我都會覺得上面果段好保守、好唔
進取，但呢 D 係實話。
再回 053h4 兄：咁 IT 公司都唔係得政府一個客喇。
[ 本帖最後由 238X 於 2006-5-12 01:07 編輯 ]
Ai.....this is a sad reality though...that's why alot of U requesting new international students to go to CC instead.because theydon't want to put the funding to fund ESL program, or lower level english class. (and also give oppertunity to those really brite and smart locals/ international a chance)Also, do you know there's actually a rule in the college board guildlines that, only, few countries (such as UK, Australia, Canada, NZ, and Singapore are excempted from taking english placement exam in US (or at least at where I work before), Hong Kong is not on the list (even Mr. Arthur Li claims that HKstudent english level will have no problem of being place at higher level english)....
BTW: the entrance exam policy is not just limited to elite schools, even some school selects foreign student to do the exam...(UW and UCs are an exception, all students have to do a simple english exam...but international student also need a TOFEL score to proof their English is up to par....) ...However, I have to point out one different mantality that's different then HK, most US people doesn't think Ivy league is so good that they have to push their kids to enter, Infact, almost 85% of American in College enrollment choose to go to any normal states school...Because employers don't give a dasy on where you graduate.....and parents...they don't care where you go, cause after college you are on your own...just like I do
If you think that's discrimination, yes that's discrimination, infact, I still think that US is the most discriminating western countries in the world...in fact, even we local knows it, (I use local because I live here longer then I've live in HK, but I stillexperience them sometimes...) but there's a term in US that's common in US, it's color blind, means that people don't see you color as a factor (the generation born after mid 70's usually have this color blindness... that's why they don't know what discrimination is....(seriously, but true....) but this would be another subject....
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原帖由 053h4 於 2006-5-11 20:02 發表
係lor...UK 一流大學的 enterance exam. 是 for "fail student"
US 係 for "fail student" lor....
無計.....教育是褔利 ma.....
你無料, 人地為什麼收你?
私校都收自己的國民先啦 ...
[ 本帖最後由 art0925 於 2006-5-12 04:10 編輯 ]
Mug college eduaction is not "褔利 " mei....I thought even if you are dirt poor, like some student that cannot pay for education in College, especially some minority students.Then there are grants available to them for their college life, (as long as they are enroll full time, and have 2.0 or above in GPA), if you continue to go to masters, there are still grants available too...In US, it's just whether or not you are willing to work hard to raise up the proverty line....I've a workmate who earn her phd last years....she was a drunker, a prostitue , a drug addic 15 years ago....in fact, she lived in her car....But now, she's a psychology PHD graduate.if college education is not a "褔利 " but a privilage for a few, then I think our society will still be made up by a bunch of uneducated peasents and rule by a ruler, or some sort of power....
原帖由 053h4 於 2006-5-11 20:02 發表
係lor...UK 一流大學的 enterance exam. 是 for "fail student"
US 係 for "fail student" lor....
無計.....教育是褔利 ma.....
你無料, 人地為什麼收你?
私校都收自己的國民先啦 ...
That's why I kinda like the system in SAT, where you answer the answer right, you get 5 pts, if you answer it wrong, you deducted 3 pts. but if you d'nt know the answer or leave it blank...you won't get/ deducted any point...Once I've talk to an educator in High School.He said that, this system is to make people think more, instead of blindly bet on answers when they are doing their exams.
原帖由 Ketsu 於 2006-5-9 13:51 發表
大家要明白
香港既會考制度
有時候係睇學生邊個錯得少
或者邊個o岩得多
份卷易做既咪鬥錯得少囉
(以前聽過唔知邊科...好似係數學
要成唔知95定98分先有A)
份卷難做既咪鬥o岩得多囉
(有時候30分都合格 ...