咁我地呢代又做過咩呢？

陳冠中的著作我這一代香港人裡提到,當年參與的學生只是極少數,
規模比不上六四和03年7-1,說是火紅年代有點誇張,當年學生的愛國
情懷早就在80年代的經濟泡沫中淹沒,想當年有誰不會說得如何有意義,
況且即使有多大的愛國熱忱,看看中共直至現時對保釣的態度如何?看看
程翔的下場如何?不要浪費你的熱情和精力,大學有甚麼不好做,學他們?
不要那麼笨

原帖由 leslie 於 2007-6-13 15:48 發表


你咁激動做咩 ??? 我又沒有說對或錯

說起來也有趣﹐本人只是提問我們做了什麼﹐
那位D字頭老兄就在說人生不一定要參與社會運動﹐
若說有人對號入座﹐不如說有人在無號座自編號碼﹐
再把自已的票編號就坐。

除了為生活奔波外﹐為社會做事又真的不一定要參與社會運動﹐
隨時連支持環保、節約生活、甚至定期捐血...等也可以。
總有些人喜歡推出大堆似是而非的理論﹐倒頭來連基本問題是什麼也
搞不清楚~~

原帖由 GT40 於 2007-6-13 23:55 發表
當年學生的愛國情懷早就在80年代的經濟泡沫中淹沒,想當年有誰不會說得如何有意義,

除保釣外﹐70年代學運也有之前的爭取中文成為法定語文、隨後的反貪污捉葛伯、較後期的金禧事件﹐較小型的包括反對巴士不設找續...等；
社運由大學生帶領﹐最主要是代議政制幾近全未發展﹐學生運動代表處理不少社會因經濟發展帶來的問題。加上學額擴充﹐
令低下階層有更多機會進入大學﹐沖淡50-60年代大學貴族主義思維。

學運在80年代起衰落﹐也是基於政府漸漸開放﹐代議政制獲得發展﹐社會矛盾可透過更公平的制度申訴。

70年代的大學社運人士﹐主要分為『國粹派』 (親大陸) 和『社會派』﹐當年中堅份子也有不少成為現時政經重要人士。值得一提﹐
除立法會議員外﹐甚至連一些問責官員也曾活躍在這個火紅的年代。

[ 本帖最後由 chai 於 2007-6-14 01:25 編輯 ]

原帖由 leslie 於 2007-6-13 15:48 發表


你咁激動做咩 ??? 我又沒有說對或錯

Am I getting emotional ?!
I didn't say i am getting emotional~

I am just telling you my friends and my point of view, exactly like what u did
Thats it

[ 本帖最後由 dicksonboy 於 2007-6-14 05:51 編輯 ]

原帖由 chai 於 2007-6-14 00:56 發表


總有些人喜歡推出大堆似是而非的理論﹐倒頭來連基本問題是什麼也
搞不清楚~~

i think those who need to ask that question are kinda hopeless~
they dont even know what they are doing~

原帖由 dicksonboy 於 2007-6-14 05:54 發表


i think those who need to ask that question are kinda hopeless~
they dont even know what they are doing~

那些人是否知道他們自己正在做甚麼，我不知道
可是，我卻清楚見到兄台你答非所問

原帖由 Cantona 於 2007-6-14 12:14 發表

那些人是否知道他們自己正在做甚麼，我不知道
可是，我卻清楚見到兄台你答非所問

本人只是針對 D 兄以下說話﹕
The question should be: Do I have time & energy to do such a thing?
Most of us are not the people who work full time to worry about that topic.
I will devote my life to social movement if they will take care of me and my family
It is sad! But you got to be more realistic

D 兄已將『我們做了什麼？』定義為『Social Movement』(即社會運動)﹐
根本原文也無一定要規定為『社會運動』﹐
這正是本人所說他為座位編號後﹐再將自已的車票編號的原因。

原帖由 chai 於 2007-6-14 12:53 發表


D 兄已將『我們做了什麼？』定義為『Social Movement』(即社會運動)﹐
根本原文也無一定要規定為『社會運動』﹐
這正是本人所說他為座位編號後﹐再將自已的車票編號的原因。

I am so sorry that i misunderstood you. I apologize in advance~
Then would you explain what sort of "stuff" you are referring to?
I assume you are not talking about having fun, buy a house, or travel a around the world
things that we do for daily normal life
I would take my words back for sure if you would provide a more specific definition.
For sure! I really mean it! I really do!

[ 本帖最後由 dicksonboy 於 2007-6-14 13:09 編輯 ]

原帖由 Cantona 於 2007-6-14 12:14 發表

那些人是否知道他們自己正在做甚麼，我不知道
可是，我卻清楚見到兄台你答非所問

I am just commenting that people who ask "What we've been doing/What we've done"
are kinda hopeless~ coz they live, they eat, they breath, but they dont even know what they are doing
it's like a person with no goal~
I was always taught to set goal in life~ or I will be hopeless.
not knowing what to do, when to do, how to do~
and thats sad~
Thats what i mean~ sorry i confused u by not explaining what i mean.~
I am commenting, not answering

原帖由 dicksonboy 於 2007-6-14 05:54 發表


i think those who need to ask that question are kinda hopeless~
they dont even know what they are doing~

兄台咁你就錯喇.
people who are really hopeless are those who did not know they don't know but they thought they know a lot.
those who ask & think about the question is "hopeful" as they reflect on their own life.

asking "what we've done" doesn't mean that we did nothing, it's just a review of life.