[GB] Hybrid d/d 1 - ADL Enviro 400H

原帖由 yblumann 於 2009-4-26 18:18 發表
just one small point to add... my information regarding the recharging of the batteries in the garage- this comes from an 'engineering director' in one of the operating companies, I also do not unders ...

I'm not amazed if they do that actually - it's cheaper to plug in and charge the battery than having the engine fired up first thing in the morning to charge it up - the battery has to be charged one way or the other, so why not doing it overnight, when the bus is sitting around doing nothing?

原帖由 NV58 於 2009-4-27 01:12 發表


The biggest problem for fuel cell is the technology is still a long way off widespread application - it's not what we can called a matured technology and the biggest problem of all, is the supportin ...

A good recap on the current situation.  I'm not against hybrid, but just trying to remind the members that hybrid is not a win-all solution.  Only talking about fuel saving, hybrid works; but when considering the cost, it needs to be justified.

In my opinion, hybrid may be a kinda compromise? Or a bridge to alternative fuel?

原帖由 WLT900 於 2009-4-28 14:39 發表


A good recap on the current situation.  I'm not against hybrid, but just trying to remind the members that hybrid is not a win-all solution.  Only talking about fuel saving, hybrid works; but when c ...

No I agree with you, it's not the magic solution by all means. I think secretly, a number of car manufacturers know improved diesel technology are better way forward - they can beat the hybrid on fuel economy, have better performance like-for-like, cheaper, just as clean, quiet and refined, and much easier to adapt. Hybrid is useful in some environment but people look at that more as an environmental statement, and its advantage is a bit overblown.

sunnykam: Hybrid is not quite a bridge alternative fuel, it's more like an alternative solution to try making oil-powered transport more efficient. The trade off is in doing that, you need to fit additional bits that weigh, and hence compromising performance and fuel economy somehow. As I said, diesel technology, esp. common rail diesels nowadays are much advanced over the last decade that it is, in many ways, just as good, or even better than petrol. Shame that it's something not really picked up by the authorities in HK.

原帖由 NV58 於 2009-4-29 01:55 發表
.....As I said, diesel technology, esp. common rail diesels nowadays aremuch advanced over the last decade that it is, in many ways, just asgood, or even better than petrol. Shame that it's something not reallypicked up by the authorities in HK.

Haha we are going off topic now.

The banning of diesel pessanger car in HK is definitely is NOT for environmental issues, it is just a matter of $$$$.  Diesel in HK does not need to pay tax, that's it.  I do against the LPG taxi too.  There is unpleasant smell when you're close to a taxi stand.  This policy further limits the choice of vehicle so there is only Toyota Crown comfort now.  Also as a tropical city, Singapore is much better.

Back to the topic, glad to hear that E400Hs are doing relatively well this moment.  Despite the technology is from the US, Dennis (ADL) is still considered as the last surviving traditional British bus manufacturer.  Hope the E200H is also good.

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原帖由 Alvin2002 於 2009-4-25 20:20 發表
我覺得香港唔會引入囉, E400H已經要315000英鎊, 即係差不多360萬港元一部, E500H(若果有的話)要賣幾錢?
另外就係, 若果要預留位置擺電池, 又要直梯, 載客量仲會少過而家.
若果又貴又載客少, 好唔化算. ...

唔洗如果，而家已經有一部e500h響加拿大行緊。



[ 本帖最後由 lv6 於 2009-4-29 07:51 編輯 ]