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NV58 發表於 2009-7-1 05:31 | 顯示全部樓層

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原帖由 aa2_dart 於 2009-6-30 18:59 發表
我諗去到今時今日呢個Moment , 如果批Dart/B6仲係度堆MAN唔洗行到咁盡.....
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回上面 , I Mean 細單層真係要E200 Dart


Yes, but the decision was taken to keep the MANs has much to do with their resale value to Britain and also the higher capacity of the MAN. In any case, I don't think it was much of a hassle for Citybus, they just make use of the fleet they have (like everybody else).

E200Dart is just one of the choice. As I said you have the Solos, SB180 and MAN and even some Japanese or Chinese types to choose from. The latest buy though, I concur with Bobby, is just a downsizing exercise to replace some double deckers. If you look at the KMB fleet a few years back and the fleet they have now, over a hundred of AMs were withdrawn without direct replacement bought in (instead most got replaced by AAs, which are larger), and that clearly indicates buses of that size is not something KMB desperately need anyway.

For the services operated with single deckers, only the 51, 203 and 276 cross my mind that a <10m single decker is really needed, and the latter two are using AMs anyway. The thing is, there are 15 of the G-reg AMs and quite a lot more G-reg (or newer) AAs that are staying in service for at least another 2 years. Until the AMs are expired, I don't think we may see an order for a replacement type. If that happens to be the E200Dart, the only version I can see will be the smallest 8.9m version.
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aa2_dart 發表於 2009-7-1 08:14 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 NV58 於 2009-7-1 05:31 發表


Yes, but the decision was taken to keep the MANs has much to do with their resale value to Britain and also the higher capacity of the MAN. In any case, I don't think it was much of a hassle for Cit ...

其實點解我諗會入E200 , 始終ADL D product , 之前keeping on都有買Dart仔做車隊中細單層既主力.......
因為佢完全冇入過Optare , SOLO仔我諗未必有機
also之前都話明MAN都唔諗定再入even Single / Double Deck , Benz唔使諗 , Volvo同Scania都未必有HK真係Fit既model......

be honest , 51只係型號上的問題 , 203我好陰謀論咁講(我覺得佢佢去到三菱仔退唒個moment會skip左入面又一村club個段路)但入面個段路佔左返又一村唔少既客....
276 , 呢個point dicuss過勁多次 , end up個conclusion都係『不為也非不能也』....
Alexander Dennis E200 Dart~~902 NM4760
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aa2_dart 發表於 2009-7-1 10:07 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 petcity 於 2009-7-1 09:55 發表


182用單層MAN,聽過但未見過,同埋都係打風日子
至有,我住沙田咁耐,聽MAN行182都係打風日子
又點話試過182學你咁講用MAN玩

點解你住得耐就代表冇機會行過......唔好覺得你冇見過/even聽過個種方式行就代表冇行過 , ok ?
Bobby哥 , 信下我講啦...... 真係keeping on係某段時間係試過架.....唔係打風呀....真架..........
好耐好耐之前有人貼過相係夜相 , 塊牌仲係啱啱NL262出黎行既個隻字體 , 沙田第一城 182......

不過你講到SOLO , um.... 比較personal咁講 , first , 佢比起Dart應該冇咁襟玩同埋冇咁多線完全啱行 , 你試下用十米長既solo日日行211頂閘上山 , 實好快死
solo呢隻車有好多point比起Dart都可取....佢前軸咁前 , 比起超短既個D Dart仔 , solo車廂佈局應該會更實用 , 更寬敞.....

都係個人D咁講 , 我覺得solo呢隻陣係啱34M 呢D啱啱好坐滿or坐滿70%好間唔中先有人企下/爆D既線 , Dart仔係啱211,30呢D成日坐滿+好多時會頂閘既線...

[ 本帖最後由 aa2_dart 於 2009-7-1 10:29 編輯 ]
Alexander Dennis E200 Dart~~902 NM4760
HB00610 發表於 2009-7-1 11:20 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 petcity 於 2009-7-1 09:59 發表


Scania之前有邊個會諗有單層單層入到九巴

Solo如果車價岩,又可以符合佢要求,不見得佢冇機會入九巴
冇第一次邊有可能keep到日後既伙伴關係,ADL都係咁走到今
日同九巴既關係 ...


我好似係呢度聽過一個傳聞, 就係oprate俾九巴blacklist左…

關十幾年前俾車的一d問題…
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orange 發表於 2009-7-1 23:05 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 petcity 於 2009-7-1 22:57 發表


但坦白講,我又冇話點聽過人講MAN行182,除左打風
所以有少少懷疑

至於Solo同Dart比,各有各好處,但究竟日後會點,冇人知
雖然E200Dart係ADL出品,好似有優勢,但講真,買車不外
乎最好平靚正,所以,只好講,架車最Top,但售價天文數字
...

MAN行182唔奇,當年城巴還有長Dart年代都試過行182

回番部分人關於E200 Dart問題:其實唔好講到E200Dart咁神化,
認為非買不可,講真E200 Dart講到尾都只係一架中型單層巴士,
呢個range既車多的是,歐洲美洲日本以至中國都有出過,低地台
高地台超底地台都有,九巴唔入Dart轉入k230/B7RLE都俾自己
試下新野,唔使獨枯一味,只係識買英國車,唔試下其他國家出品
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orange 發表於 2009-7-1 23:07 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 HB00610 於 2009-7-1 11:20 發表


我好似係呢度聽過一個傳聞, 就係oprate俾九巴blacklist左…

關十幾年前俾車的一d問題…

Optare無blacklist九巴,只係當年間廠要趕訂單先無運架
雙層巴士俾九巴試,跟住之後無再跟進
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你係咪講九巴blackilist optare??
無理由Optare會blacklist九巴呀
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