我愛的 -- ENVIRO300 (100 pics)

原帖由 S3N92 於 2011-9-13 02:47 發表

metrobus倫敦曾經入過小量enviro300的man雙門版

The trio are 14.220/E200, not E300. There isn't a single E300 serving London (yet).

原帖由 S3N92 於 2011-9-13 10:47 發表

放左響ADL車廠ma

請教...
點係架車係左軑?

在Enviro家族中，只有Enviro 300 沒有被香港的巴士公司引入。
究竟Enviro 300的車軸設計，能否符合運輸署的發牌標準呢？

[ 本帖最後由 dongfeng 於 2011-9-16 14:13 編輯 ]

原帖由 dongfeng 於 2011-9-16 06:07 發表
在Enviro家族中，只有Enviro 300 沒有被香港的巴士公司引入。
究竟Enviro 300的車軸設計，能否符合運輸署的發牌標準呢？

There is no reason why not. The only problem is because the E300's design GVW is much lower as well, it does not have to payload capacity to carry a useful number of passengers for its size, esp. after the air-cond is fitted.

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ADL E300


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MAN A69 E300 (Stagecoach in Oxfordshire)

小弟一向都幾鍾意MAN車(城市巴士+旅遊客車),MAN A69陣 配Enviro 300單門版車身真係好型
如果香港有公司引入MAN A69 E300跑機場線,咁就正la(諗起都流曬口水)






其實英國批MAN A69 E300的引擎係行D0836定係D2066?

原帖由 NV58 於 2011-9-16 14:49 發表


There is no reason why not. The only problem is because the E300's design GVW is much lower as well, it does not have to payload capacity to carry a useful number of passengers for its size, esp. af ...

它的載重應該同當年Lance, 或者一眾大型單層巴士(例如Scania K230UB, Volvo B7RLE, Benz Citaro, MAN NL323, Young Man JNP6122G......)差不多, 理論上在香港可以出牌行走, 但問題係佢的載客量, 因為Enviro 300的兩個長度為12米及12.5米, 香港可以出牌的只有12米一個型號, 座位數目與Enviro 200最長的11.3米版本幾乎是一樣(若MTR的E200的水塘位全裝上座位, 理論上可加至34-35座位, 企位連一張輪椅同樣是34-35個, 即可以載大約70人), 而12米的E300估計比11.3米E200多4個座位及4個企位, 但以兩者的耗油量及車價及靈活性, 似乎是11.3米E200比較化算.

原帖由 gordon 於 2011-9-19 16:24 發表
它的載重應該同當年Lance, 或者一眾大型單層巴士(例如Scania K230UB, Volvo B7RLE, Benz Citaro, MAN NL323, Young Man JNP6122G......)差不多, 理論上在香港可以出牌行走, 但問題係佢的載客量, 因為Enviro 300的兩 ...

What you said is only part of the story. The E300 is built to a lighter design that the full-size (and heavier) equivalent, but for that very reason, its design GVW is much lower, at 14.4 tons instead of 17-18 tons on the Volvos, Scanias, Mercs and even the old Lance. So although in the UK the E300 is typically 2 tons lighter when empty, it's lower GVW means that it cannot carry as much payload as a full size bus.

And when you throw the air-conditioning unit that is found on HK buses, the problem only gets worst for the E300. It may surprise you, but I reckon E300 built to HK spec, with air-cond and all the goodies, would end up with so little payload allowance that it will be certified to carry less passengers than a 10.4m E200Dart.

I need to say though, this is a limitation not restricted to the E300 only. VDL SB200 - designed under similar philosophy, have pretty much the same issues as well.

呢隻車都係應付巴士公司要輕量化的大車而應運而生
一來部車可能使用壽命短D
二來人多超載係未必頂得住
人多會爆棚既倫敦都寧願買CITARO唔買佢

原帖由 ksmbh 於 2011-9-20 21:50 發表
呢隻車都係應付巴士公司要輕量化的大車而應運而生
一來部車可能使用壽命短D
二來人多超載係未必頂得住
人多會爆棚既倫敦都寧願買CITARO唔買佢

頂唔順又唔會掛，其實部車睇落輕在用左唔少細車機件

粗用牙煙D，多人問題不大，而機器都唔見得勁抽

而且12米車，你想佢可以粗用得去邊....正正常常stop and go濕濕碎