【標題已改】從荔橋事件反映出 italk 現今評分者標準

睇完荔橋 ching 講既野，有少少後感。


影車對我黎講，真係一見好隨心既事。
影車，影完之後，其實你無需要對外人負責，不過，前提係你冇放張相出黎。只係，你選擇放出黎，你對張相既一言一行，都要負責任。唔通，我可以話上高張相我係十年前影既？
十年前 6479 都未向 K 廠啦。


人人對影相有好多睇法。
有 d ching 認為呢 d 唔叫巴士相，標準相先係巴士相；有 d ching 則認為只要張相既內容同巴士有關，都叫巴士相。
不過，我覺得向係咪評論張相係「巴士相」前，最先決條件就係「手定」。你隻手唔定，基礎打唔好，又點可以繼續向上發展呢？ pan 相、夜攝（冇腳架），你隻手唔定，影到嗎？


我唔敢話自己影得好叻，但基本野都要做到足。影出黎，張相清晰，俾人睇到係乜野，我已經收貨。
每個人有唔同標準，有人話一定要有個比例，有人話佢鐘意架車腸 d ，有人話鐘意大頭（好似我咁），如果用呢 d 標準去評人，根本評唔到 d 咩。大家標準唔同，又點評呢？
正如我上高 d 相，車尾都照影，可能會有人覺得我影埋 d 無聊野，但係我就自問：冇問題丫，清晰，同埋只不過係另一種表達方既者。


影相，不論係巴士相定其他相，基本就係要清晰。當然我知道呢度有好多影相好叻既朋友…而我講既野不過係 d 行外人講既野…所以，見笑了 : )
同埋…講大話向邊個地方講都係唔岩架，唔好講大話喇～

多謝點閱小妹廢話～

PS 要手定的話，飲少 d 茶，影既時候唔好呼吸…不過要慢慢黎，唔係都會炒相 sosad
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討論既時候，本身我本住用呢個 post ，希望荔橋樓主睇到，可以學到我影相唯一有信心既地方——手定。
如果咁樣都覺得我仲串緊佢，咁我無辦法，因為我唔用表情符號，同埋無語氣，無計。

但係向呢個 post 入邊出現在一 d 為扣分而扣分既板友，連 post 都唔睇，向扣分欄度寫晒 d 自我到不行，又唔負責既言論
呢個，又係一個 aPower 證明：
原來有 aPower 生殺大權，一班人就可以盡情地做網絡判官。荔橋一文，如果樓主既相只係 pan 唔正，矇左 d ，唔屬於一 d 完全唔入得眼既相，我唔明仲可以有一班人「圍為喂」咁去扣佢分。

而同一時間，除左呢班人，亦都有某 d 板友因為扣分扣上癮，講野唔負責任，如果佢該番言論係回 post 咁出，相信佢都亦比人扣唔少 aPower。
由此可見，擁有 aPower 就係俾左一支可以胡亂殺人既槍俾 d 唔識自省同尊重別人既板友，俾佢亂咁去殺人，仲可以搞到其他板友變成 begger 。佢唔係犯咩大錯丫，影相麻麻地者，有必要搞到對方變成 begger 咩？而總係扣分既板友，又可以證明到自己影相又係好過人？

aPower 本身係中性既野，呢個 settings 向冇小朋友之前既 italk 行係冇問題既。但依家只要一睇 d 勁高分（又或者俾人扣分既人）既 post 度睇，俾分扣分者竟然可以俾 d 小學雞理由去俾分扣分，不可思議。
如今呢個俾分扣分制，就係俾某 d 連公私都唔分既板友，又或者係 d 連尊重人都唔識既板友騎劫。

我自己唔係成日向 italk 出現，只係得閒先會出現多 d 。俾人扣晒分，冇關係，我咪唔上黎囉，反正又唔駛 login 先睇到相。如果有 d 人喜歡扣我分既話，歡迎佢每日用晒果 5 分黎扣我分，我無任歡迎。

[ 本帖最後由 JV7629 於 2011-11-17 23:28 編輯 ]

I really like that Juicy Couture, except the sign on the edge of balustrade. The advertisement is awesome.

Back to the topic. Somehow I dun really like what we called "standardized photos". True, it is all about buses but there is no expression at all. Taking photos is like drawing. We want to show/express something in the pictures. You may say it has to be clear, but I would say if its meaningful, then it is not necessary to be clear. It totally depends on how to express in the picture.

I cnt judge what that guy did in his article. I can only see a bunch of ppl criticize on his photos and everything. I have only a question: Does it necessary to label him as a "beggar" by keep deducting his aPower?

Well, "a clear picture" would be the most vital point after people found out his lie. In other words, what I meant in this post is: you must have something to express / show in the picture. "Clear" is something you need to bear in mind - if you can't feel anything from the pic you take, try to take something common and acceptable for some people first. After you gain a certain degree of skills, you can do whatever you can based on the skills.

I won't comment on those "standardized pictures" as everyone has its own standard about beauty. The guy had taken some blurred pics and I would only say "Hey it's blur picture" then that's everything! If he is a newbie, I can accept what he took. If he is a veteran, I will want more description about the pic he took.

One thing I don't really understand: I accept different opinions from others and it is a post for everyone to discuss. Why some people always put themselves into other people's shoes? They "love" standardized photos and while other people expressing their opinions about non-standardized photos, they come out and say "you are self-centredness"? Where can those people find self centredness in this post? I never said "standardized photos are the worst photos".

We have our own standard even on photos. It is really pessimistic  to see some people treat this post as "self centred" post.

我成日都係咁話, 你影相嘅目的係咩先? 影相嘅目的就係為咗得到快樂, 唔快樂嘅影尼把鬼咩~

咁好喇, 快樂完喇, 但d相如果唔係太合符大部份人嘅標準嘅話, 咁就應解選擇唔post出尼, 因為遇咗比人插

其實何解影一張相都要咁執着於標準唔摽準呢? 正如樓主講各人都有唔同嘅標準, 有d人中意重口味, 呢樣野边個都冇錯架, 各花出各眼嘛. 對唔住喎, 世界就係咁, 好多人認為啱嘅野咁個樣野就係啱, 所以影車都一樣, 要有進步, 就請跟大隊去影標準相, 唔好怪人扣你a-power ~ 唔想跟大隊就只好孤芳自賞了

我好認同少數服從多數, 所以我選擇了快樂地影普遍接受嘅標準相, 其實影好一張相, 並唔難, 要記住H+P, Heart plus Practices , 我9月初加入italk大家庭( 雖然1年前已開ac) 經過板友的調教和指導, 相片質素日漸改善, 所以, 影好一張, 並唔係買部好pro嘅單反就得.

多言了~

[ 本帖最後由 夕陽巴士 於 2011-11-17 19:18 編輯 ]

個人覺得，影自己鐘意影嘅野，影完令到自己有滿足感就足夠
雖然有d巴士迷嘅行為真係令人髮指..

btw , 有時候真係無心情影,遊完車河就算..
懶，舊相番貼數張。

原帖由 JV7629 於 2011-11-17 17:14 發表
One thing I don't really understand: I accept different opinions from others and it is a post for everyone to discuss. Why some people always put themselves into other people's shoes? They "love" standardized photos and while other people expressing their opinions about non-standardized photos, they come out and say "you are self-centredness"? Where can those people find self centredness in this post? I never said "standardized photos are the worst photos".

This statement is so true. I dun even know who created the rule of taking "standardised photo" and urged ppl to follow. It is really pessimistic to have only 1 single type of photos allowed in forum (of cos its free for us to post wtever we want - just if you don't care about aPower)

*Now I understand the reason for ppl criticising abt the guy's post...but it comes to another problem, aPower - which is not a useful and effective way to encourage ppl to improve. It is however totally like a judge / law as a guide asking for "THINK BEFORE TAKING ANY ACTIONS". If someone is not violate the rules, how could you make him/her as a beggar? If you dun like his/her photo taking style, you can just simply shut up. If you like it then add him/her some points. Thats simple right?

JV7629兄︰

實在忍唔住想講兩句...

我希望你睇下你講荔橋果個post，第六板ben2004兄既小小感受…

http://hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/view ... page%3D1&page=6

係，人家說謊有錯，影相技術不足都有問題…我都同意真係有問題，但你有無需要開多一板再"暗示地話人不是"…

你表面是說感受，但我看完荔橋POST，再看呢個POST，我認真看你的文章…其實你每一段都是暗寸荔橋post果位樓主！

你不鼓勵他人下次影好D都算了，希望你可以適可而止吧…

註︰利益申報︰我不認識荔橋post樓主及BEN2004兄！

千年：
應該係我出個 title 唔夠準，我一陣直程改埋佢「從荔橋事件反映出 italk 現今評分者標準」仲準
我係希望用呢個 post 俾該位樓主睇，其實影相一開始係最好先跟大圍，跟左大圍之後再慢慢 build up 其他細野，即係話，先練好 skills ，再去做其他 skills 以外既野
如果我串佢的話，語氣都會唔同啦…

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我係唔太鐘意標準相，但我都會尊重佢，『雖然我不贊同你的看法，但我誓死捍衛你說話的權利。』伏泰爾既說話，係我行動既證明
但係如果一個人以扣分黎表達自己既言論，咁同老師發現學生跟自己言論不一致，向成績上扣個學生分又有咩分別？

只係識得運用網絡權力躲一角扣分而唔去討論或嘗試理解他人想法，咁同放冷箭又有咩分別？ italk 呢啲咁既風氣咁盛行，唔怪之得之前既有智之士會走哂，只係留低一班自以為自己好有權力既人向度做網絡「判官」
我從來唔否認標準相呢樣野，但向扣分既人之中，有人以「要求」兩字去解釋標準相係比非標準更好。如果係咁，佢攞哂佢啲分去扣啲唔到佢所謂「要求」既相啦，扣我既言論做咩？咁做既話，你去扣埋 B12 既分啦？做咩只係扣我？唔好話我知你睇唔明我講咩囉

係呀，我向呢度係無資格扣分同評人，不過我現實生活好滿足，唔需要向呢度自我安慰地以「因為你地意見不合要扣下人地分」黎滿足現實生活咩權力都無既事實
你既意見真係咁岩既話，你咪出黎俾人評下理囉，係咁岩既話要躲一邊攻擊人咁細膽？驚俾人扣果啲咩 aPower 呀？我唔驚架，你咪扣囉，大不了咪 ban 戶口，我驚我自己一玩起上黎，連你戶口者俾人 ban 返一頭幾個月咁陰公呀




好喇，我講既野係咁多，我唔會再回呢個 post ，係咁。

[ 本帖最後由 JV7629 於 2011-11-17 23:37 編輯 ]

原帖由 JV7629 於 2011-11-17 23:26 發表
千年：
應該係我出個 title 唔夠準，我一陣直程改埋佢「從荔橋事件反映出 italk 現今評分者標準」仲準
我係希望用呢個 post 俾該位樓主睇，其實影相一開始係最好先跟大圍，跟左大圍之後再慢慢 build up 其他細野，即係話，先練好 ...

可能你是好意，但我睇完荔橋POST再入來睇，我覺得唔係咁好受…可能係我敏感或多心！

如果你簡單直接講你呢個REPLY既內容，我覺得會舒服D…人家都是初學/新手ja…

至於你下半部分，我無可奉告！