[問] 馬耳他 Malta 巴士現況同德國Frankfurt巴士

本人正籌備二三月前往馬耳他旅遊, 想問下有沒有人知在Arriva 接管後當地仲有沒有古典巴士作公共巴士服務同四圍走.. 還是周街是中國貨?

因為Agent 建議在德國Frankfurt轉機, 想stay 多幾日o係果度, 想問下有沒有人知果度的巴士服務同車款同柏林一唔一樣? 其實我prefer 去柏林, 不過好似太遠了...

有人建議我坐多程ICE去德國Wuppertal 坐那些 Schwebebahn or "floating tram". 其實難唔難去?

亦有Agent 建議我stay 同在Munich 轉機... 究竟觀光, 名勝及巴士上Munich 定Frankfurt好些?

先謝! 希望各師兄提供寶貴意見.

原帖由 blueblue 於 2011-12-29 21:51 發表
亦有Agent 建議我stay 同在Munich 轉機... 究竟觀光, 名勝及巴士上Munich 定Frankfurt好些?

如果計觀光、名勝，Munich應該比Frankfurt豐富，Frankfurt給我感覺只是一個商業大城市，
Munich雖然也是商業為主但還有多一些特色景點(如BMW博物館、奧林匹克紀念公園)。

Malta:
90 buses have been preserved. Many buses are sent to scrap or destruction scene in film production. A few are deployed to tourist service. Some original public service buses have become non-route buses or kept by individuals.
Of course, you can still find CVG6, Fleetline, Routemaster, Titan, B10MD, N230UD, B7TL, Trident...

Route buses include XMQ6900, XMQ6127, Citaro G, XMQ6113, 14.220, Solo, Volkswagon T5, SB200, Temsa Avenue, B7RLE, Solaris, BMC Falcon, MCII.

Frankfurt:
Not very different from other German city, But there should not be any characteristic ones like ND313 / O 814 double deck...

[ 本帖最後由 abh 於 2011-12-30 07:24 編輯 ]

原帖由 abh 於 2011-12-30 07:19 發表
Malta:
90 buses have been preserved. Many buses are sent to scrap or destruction scene in film production. A few are deployed to tourist service. Some original public service buses have become non-rou ...

Thanks a lot, brother.
Can I take the original public service buses (especially the yellow classic buses) when I go there.....  Is it easy to find them??  Just took some pix is ok... I guess there might be some heritage routes?  In addition, had Arriva taken over the public bus service in Gozo and Comino Islands? I saw some pix of silver old buses in Gozo before...

I am deciding whether I stay a few more days in Frankfurt or Munich as I have to transfer plane at either of these 2 places.  
I did not play sports and recreational activities... just would like to see more historical buildings/places, taking scenery and bus photos and performed some shopping.  As mentioned by brother ML29, I guess Munich might be a better place for me.  I can take 12-14 days holiday.  I decide to spend 6D5N to travel around Malta (3 islands) and spend 4-5days in Germany.  

6D5N in Malta: Do you think it is too much for a tourist who just took photos and enjoy the scenery of Mediterrian but not playing any water-sports?
4-5days in Munich: Do you think I could occupy the time and would not feel bored there?...

Thanks so much in advance.

[ 本帖最後由 blueblue 於 2011-12-30 09:37 編輯 ]

原帖由 blueblue 於 2011-12-30 09:32 發表



Thanks a lot, brother.
Can I take the original public service buses (especially the yellow classic buses) when I go there.....  Is it easy to find them??  Just took some pix is ok...
All public bus services has been taken over by Arriva. Some of them were second hand from ATP. But all those buses are SLF buses. You may take a photo or two of the classic ones if you see those preserved buses run around. Please note that some Arriva routes are currently subcontracted to private operators.

I guess there might be some heritage routes?  
No idea. But there are quite a handful of sightseeing routes and packages.

In addition, had Arriva taken over the public bus service in Gozo and Comino Islands? I saw some pix of silver old buses in Gozo before...
There are still some for school / charter service in Gozo. There is no bus in Comino.

I am deciding whether I stay a few more days in Frankfurt or Munich as I have to transfer plane at either of these 2 places.  
I did not play sports and recreational activities... just would like to see more historical buildings/places, taking scenery and bus photos and performed some shopping.  As mentioned by brother ML29, I guess Munich might be a better place for me.

Definitely. Although you need to check the timings of LH flights and the cost. Germany in Feb / Mar could be very cold and wet.

I can take 12-14 days holiday.  I decide to spend 6D5N to travel around Malta (3 islands) and spend 4-5days in Germany.  

6D5N in Malta: Do you think it is too much for a tourist who just took photos and enjoy the scenery of Mediterrian but not playing any water-sports?

I spent 2 weeks and I only covered 80-90% of quality attractions. There are too many things for you to see in Malta, especially the prehistoric sites, various natural scenery and churches. You may assume that I spent 10-20% of time on bus spotting and the rest sight seeing.

4-5days in Munich: Do you think I could occupy the time and would not feel bored there?...

It depends on how you spend it. There should be enough variety of buses for you to spot, although tourist spots are far less attractive than those in Malta.

Thanks so much in advance.

[ 本帖最後由 abh 於 2011-12-30 20:10 編輯 ]

Thanks a lot, Anthony.

其實玩德國我Perfer Berlin(多d巴士同名勝), 但如去馬爾他(Malta)影車同影風景的話, agent 話完全唔就腳, 甘我唯有在轉機地點Munich Stay Over.

我打算在Munich 玩2天, 3日坐ICE去Berlin或其他城市, Malta 玩6天,
人生路不熟, Munich 主要用果D Hop-on-Hop-off bus 來玩~看過City-sighseeing 網主要用Man SD-202開頂巴士(如果太悶係咪可以坐ICE去其他城市玩3日?)
而Malta 會去晒Malta, Gozo, Comino 3個島, Malta島主要都係用Hop-on-Hop-off bus 玩4日(都係City-sighseeing巴士), 其他兩個島每個stay 1 day.

Agent quote air ticket only 坐Luftansa, HKG->Munich(stay few days)->Malta
Malta->Frankfurt->HKG [全程>$11K]

兩個人成個Trip Budget 約$35-40K, 師兄你覺得行程同budget如何? 有沒有什麼改善的空間.

Thanks a lot!

巧有米.

其實玩德國我Perfer Berlin(多d巴士同名勝), 但如去馬爾他(Malta)影車同影風景的話, agent 話完全唔就腳, 甘我唯有在轉機地點Munich Stay Over.

FRA, FCO and LHR / LGW are the major European transfer spots to Malta. People usually visit Malta through these ports.

I was not as rich as you to use take LH to Malta, although LH has the most flights amongst European airlines to MLA. I tried EK and you should find both service and price considerably attractive, although you cannot visit Germany with EK. When I checked EK's price just now versus what I did in 2011, the price has increased by 15% although it is still the cheapest!

我打算在Munich 玩2天, 3日坐ICE去Berlin或其他城市, Malta 玩6天,
人生路不熟, Munich 主要用果D Hop-on-Hop-off bus 來玩~看過City-sighseeing 網主要用Man SD-202開頂巴士(如果太悶係咪可以坐ICE去其他城市玩3日?)
Staying at Munich for 5 days is not too much. If you really feel bored, there are many 1-day trips to nearby cities / countryside and they are really good. e.g. Oberamagau / Mt Zugspitz, Fuessen (Neutschwanstein), Konigsee, Kehlhaus... You can only do 1 of them a day. Bus travelling time about 1-2 hours to / fro the destination.

而Malta 會去晒Malta, Gozo, Comino 3個島, Malta島主要都係用Hop-on-Hop-off bus 玩4日(都係City-sighseeing巴士), 其他兩個島每個stay 1 day.

You should spend more time on Gozo if you have a little more. I have not been to Comino, but I think 1/2 day is enough.

There are attractive sightseeing packages on those buses. Apart from City Sightseeing, you can also try Malta Sightseeing. You may also try other newer operators.

Agent quote air ticket only 坐Luftansa, HKG->Munich(stay few days)->Malta
Malta->Frankfurt->HKG [全程>$11K]

兩個人成個Trip Budget 約$35-40K, 師兄你覺得行程同budget如何?

Accommodation in Malta plus spending in Munich can be expensive, it depends on where you stay and what you eat.

我上年5月都去左MALTA 兩星期,好好彩果時有原本既巴士服務,雖然果時D巴士真係好有特色,但係轉左Arriva 之後,無容置疑,巴士服務既質素係高左,尤其是係GOZO既巴士,以前好多線都係個幾鐘先得一班
果時,果度D BUS 95%都係唔會關門,唔知而家轉左Arriva 之後仲係唔係呢?
另外,我建議你買7-DAY TICKET會方便D,因為可以鍾意去邊就去邊,仲好過觀光巴士,不過你計下睇下有無著數先再決定
我果時就搭EMIRATES係香港經DUBAI轉機去MALTA
不過我去果時,果度D巴士款式真係超多,送幾張果時影巴士相
















[ 本帖最後由 平田巴總站長 於 2012-1-6 14:57 編輯 ]

原帖由 abh 於 2012-1-2 20:33 發表
巧有米.

其實玩德國我Perfer Berlin(多d巴士同名勝), 但如去馬爾他(Malta)影車同影風景的話, agent 話完全唔就腳, 甘我唯有在轉機地點Munich Stay Over.

FRA, FCO and LHR / LGW are the major European transfe ...

Really thanks very much for your advice, Anthony.
宜家假期未必有甘多, 而且去德國Berlin 唔係好順路, 可能只玩Malta 8天, 所以可能會訂Emirates經Dubai 轉機, 其中一天可能day trip take express ferry 去意大利西西里; 至於德國可能年尾或出年先一次過玩!

原帖由 平田巴總站長 於 2012-1-6 14:50 發表
我上年5月都去左MALTA 兩星期,好好彩果時有原本既巴士服務,雖然果時D巴士真係好有特色,但係轉左Arriva 之後,無容置疑,巴士服務既質素係高左,尤其是係GOZO既巴士,以前好多線都係個幾鐘先得一班
果時,果度D BUS 95%都 ...

師兄, 多謝你的分享!

我宜家決定二三月淨玩Malta 8天, 所以可能會訂Emirates經Dubai 轉機, 可能坐下A380

8天中會一日坐Malta Sighseeing/City Sightseeing 開頂巴士/Hertiage bus的Leyland Titan, 另一日會坐ferry/water plane 到GOZO島Day tour (坐Gozo Malta Sighseeing開頂巴士), 另一日去Comino Island, 希望有多一天可能day trip take express ferry 去意大利西西里;

少少OT: 師兄仲有D問題想請教你, 因為冇咩人去過, 唔好意思~

你上次去兩個星期, 景點係咪都夠時間玩? 影巴士我唸你影一兩日?~ 有沒有去埋其他地方如西西里?

你上次住邊間Hotel? 酒店我打算訂Sliema區, 等巴士去Valletta 方唔方便? 如果唔太貴我都想往Valletta不過D人介紹Sliema..

最大問題好似係打手提電話同上網問題... 我上網看過果度有Vodafone, 但pre-paid sim 一係就是比人TOP-UP(本身要有一張sim), 一係就連電話一齊買.>< 想問下~如果我想在當地打電話返HK或打當地, 在哪裡可買一張儲值sim card?

仲有如果我想上網, 那裡一般酒店用WIIFI/網線收不收費?~ (otel.com 上有D寫酒店有上網設施但我唔知收不收費~) 或者遊客易唔易買到當地3G sim card 及收費如何?

不過我擔心我二月去可能好早天黑.. 凍反而其次....

希望各師兄如果經歷過可解答下~
萬分感激!