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mmlcs36 發表於 2006-3-28 23:42 | 顯示全部樓層

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500 發表於 2006-3-28 23:53 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 rickywk 於 2006-3-28 10:52 發表

翻新,搵Bombardier,佢應該肯

我估翻新都係機電部份,漏水問題,噴下油就算


聽講當年Bombardier好似係提供機電咋wor,車身係CAF的出品。
不過地鐵見過鬼都好應該怕黑啦掛……
rickywk 發表於 2006-3-29 00:04 | 顯示全部樓層
當年ADTranz唔知有冇呻笨,搵著CAF呢間野做JV,真係盞攪...

話時話,AEL開始翻噴工程,幾時到TCL做?
500 發表於 2006-3-29 00:17 | 顯示全部樓層

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原帖由 rickywk 於 2006-3-29 00:04 發表
當年ADTranz唔知有冇呻笨,搵著CAF呢間野做JV,真係盞攪...

話時話,AEL開始翻噴工程,幾時到TCL做?


宜家地鐵d K車咪又係用返AD Tranz的台車。

AEL搞掂晒的話,都輪到TCL架啦(到時東涌K都可能出o左黎搵食),怕且……
rickywk 發表於 2006-3-29 00:21 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 500 於 2006-3-29 00:17 發表


宜家地鐵d K車咪又係用返AD Tranz的台車。

AEL搞掂晒的話,都輪到TCL架啦(到時東涌K都可能出o左黎搵食),怕且……

無計,如果大嶼山批車唔係價賤者得,ADTranz一手攪掂,應該唔會咁差
500 發表於 2006-3-29 00:28 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 rickywk 於 2006-3-29 00:21 發表

無計,如果大嶼山批車唔係價賤者得,ADTranz一手攪掂,應該唔會咁差


台鐵當年咪就係因為果四個字同冇點做過事前技術資格審查,最後咪買o左抽十分爛的PP自強號……
rickywk 發表於 2006-3-29 00:58 | 顯示全部樓層

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原帖由 500 於 2006-3-29 00:28 發表


台鐵當年咪就係因為果四個字同冇點做過事前技術資格審查,最後咪買o左抽十分爛的PP自強號……
電機野一分錢有一分貨已經偷笑
500 發表於 2006-3-29 01:04 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 rickywk 於 2006-3-29 00:58 發表
電機野一分錢有一分貨已經偷笑


咁又未必啊,如果你有適當的眼光的話……
大型家電、電子產品、甚至升降機都有可能一分錢八九分貨。

*話名眼光,當然要睇個人本身有幾多功力同事前功課做得足唔夠啦。
kmb3asv3 發表於 2006-3-29 06:00 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 kychung 於 2006-3-28 04:36 發表
(不過可能買Goninan車黎就將軍澳線都唔定架)


That would definitely be great for the Australian Economy, however, Goninan's technology is no where near Kinki-Sharyo. The SP1900s are probably one of the best-built metro trains in the world.

Like a few boardmates have pointed out, it would probably be most cost-efficient and ideal to acquire brand new rollingstock to replace the MLRs for KCRC, when you think about it, they have been around for 2 decades.

As for MTRC, they seem to be pretty happy with the ROTEMs due to the $$ factor, but you never know, they might decide to launch a tender and have different companies bid for their rollingstock replacement. What is the designed life-cycle for the M-trains, like 30 years? 40 years? They probably weren't originally designed with handling the workload that they have to handle these days...
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DIH 發表於 2006-3-29 15:08 | 顯示全部樓層

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原帖由 kmb3asv3 於 2006-3-29 06:00 發表


That would definitely be great for the Australian Economy, however, Goninan's technology is no where near Kinki-Sharyo. The SP1900s are probably one of the best-built metro trains in the world. ...

I agree.
The refurbishment work of MLR has completed just a few years,
but judging from their performance and interior, I don't think they look like refurbished at all.
In some ways they perform worse than before refurbishment!
(e.g. cabin vibrations, carriage-joint "earthquakes")
That's not the train's fault, the problem is the "unrealistic ambition"
to increase the load indefinitely onto these middle-aged trains.
They were designed to be "suburban trains", not "metro trains", but they are playing the role as metro trains.

For the M-trains of MTR, it's a bit better, probably because they were designed to be metro trains,
and they can withstand the frequent startings and stoppings, doors banging and every square inch crowded with people.

I support KCRC continuing to buy new trains from reliable companies in the future,
even if it's a bit expensive and requires me to give some of the money.
K-train is not the best, but I believe Rotem will improve with more experiences,
so I have no opinion on the future of MTR trains.
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