[Northern Ireland, 轉載]Stagecoach London B5LH已出廠

Anyone knows when the B5LHs will be in service on the streets of London?

Also, did anyone happen to see V6 in the last few weeks? I went to London last Saturday, but it wasn't on run 12-217.
I asked the 217 driver if V6 was in service, but I could tell he was messing with me.

V6已經一個多月無出車，相信較早前已經''歸還''富豪。

原帖由 GW5498 於 2014-3-30 01:54 發表


或者係因為所有歐六偈都要飲尿, 所以ADL唔介意俾自家車身裝喺其他底盤, 包括富豪
但係之前唔係有人講過ADL + 富豪呢個配搭出現過問題咩?當我聽到呢張訂單嘅時候, 我都嚇咗一跳
估唔到隔咗咁多年, 呢個配 ...

http://hybriduserforum.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/VolvoHybridSummary.pdf
但睇過 Volvo 個設計，似乎下層後半部地板唔多似有大件機件而要整高一級
諗緊會唔會係想減低走廊斜度先咁整，始終尾軸比較前，倫敦既話中門/輪椅位後至尾軸之間得半隻窗既空間俾佢整斜台


至於前跨同尾跨，有 d 野係就係做到，但唔代表會主動做
以前 Wright 個 d B7L/B7RLE、DB250LF、B10BLE 之類頭跨夠已經係 2.5-2.6 米，但都唔係全部整導航位 (一 pair 向車頭，或者兩個橫位係前輪拱兩側都好)
結果之後 DB300 同 B7RLE 配 Wright 一樣做到一 pair 導航位，反而 B5LH 根本只需將車門稍為遷就一下，分分鐘唔使延長 (本身已經剛好多過 2.5 米) 已經夠裝一 pair 導航位，結果而家就浪費左該處空間
本身電池擺正係中門前個位已經限制左車箱佈局，引擎室佈局佔位亦比 E400H 浪費更多空間，引擎室呢樣係廠商自己取向咁無得講，但其餘幾樣野有得做好少少都唔做，睇見實在有少少失望


如果 ADL E400 身 (新/舊版都好) 配落 B5LH 出黎載客量反而比 Wright 車身高就搞笑...
砌起上黎對 ADL / Stagecoach 應該都唔陌生，簡直就好似將而家 E400 x N230UD (尾跨都 2.8 米以上，只僅僅少過 B5LH) 中間縮短一隻窗咁簡單

原帖由 HW8373 於 2014-4-5 19:41 發表



http://hybriduserforum.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/VolvoHybridSummary.pdf
但睇過 Volvo 個設計，似乎下層後半部地板唔多似有大件機件而要整高一級
諗緊會唔會係想減低走廊斜度先咁整，始終尾軸比較前，倫敦既話 ...

Thanks for the link, that is actually an interesting presentation - although I have seen some of the information from another TfL presentation at about the same time.

The step at the back of the B5LH is hard to understand, however, I have not seen a photo of the chassis itself and thus it is difficult to tell why it is there in the first place. I tend to agree that it is more sensible than a steep ramp, though.

The location of the battery of the chassis is not really a major matter, mainly because, I think, it is designed to accommodate the UK and European layout. If, say, any operator wants the wheelchair spaces at nearside forward, there is no reason why the battery pack cannot be moved to somewhere else, although that will involve moving some of the aux air tanks as well I suspect.

I have to say though, the B5LH chassis design is clearly done with a view to share it with the 7900H. Afterall, at the time it is conceived, Volvo must have though that there is no commercial value to do a bespoke design for the UK market, because there is no guarantee that it would sell as well as it is at the moment. More importantly, the UK market has moved on in the last 10 years or so and the resistance of a chassis layout like that is no longer there, so what's the point of changing? From the layout point of view it is not ideal, but with almost 500 examples in service/ordered, I don't think it is a big deal either.

原帖由 HW8373 於 2014-4-5 19:41 發表
結果之後 DB300 同 B7RLE 配 Wright 一樣做到一 pair 導航位，反而 B5LH 根本只需將車門稍為遷就一下，分分鐘唔使延長 (本身已經剛好多過 2.5 米) 已經夠裝一 pair 導航位，結果而家就浪費左該處空間

The front axle module of the B5LH should be the same as the B5TL, B9TL and B7/8RLE. So having a forward seat is indeed not an issue. Afterall, The E400 bodied B9TLs feature those seats anyway.

Because of that, I will not be surprised that these Stagecoach B5s will have those seats as well.

上層圓角窗成架中巴PD5 咁