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man1965 發表於 2007-12-16 23:03 | 顯示全部樓層

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Alexander Dennis Enviro500 打開美加市場是好事,快過富豪,新加坡幾年都冇入 Alexander Dennis D車,多一、兩個新市場是好事。
DC5 發表於 2007-12-17 00:07 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 GK9636 於 2007-12-15 17:43 發表


香港市場仲有幾耐發展有數得計, 而家一年得一兩張單, 海外市場淨靠香港就大鑊


而家發達國在未來需進一步減排溫室氣體, 加上油價繼續飆升, 對於公共巴士的需求一定會愈來愈高, 發展這些新市場比起依靠逐漸萎縮的 ...


發達國家中,美、加及阿聯酋係雙層公交車的新興市場。以Dennis的設計,可以吸引部份營運者購買。

點都好,雙層車都係主力行Downtown範圍及市區-市郊的主幹線,而sub-urban線,交比New Flyer, Nova Bus。
art0925 發表於 2007-12-18 04:27 | 顯示全部樓層
I think AD definity know that the NA will be a great market for Double Decker, otherwise, they will not invest heavily on modifying the design to suit the requirement of US and Canada (not only did they modified the height, but alot of componests are actually made in America, to suit the Buy-American rule...), Also, AD is planning to have a assembly facility in Calif. for the North American order.  If AD doesn't feel that this is a huge market, then i dun think they will invest heavily...btw, I heard from an offical @ First Community Transit (yes, First Community Transit is the proper name...) that they are quite satified with the double-tall, however, a few drivers who was trained @ AD in UK said that the US-Enviro is alot heavier then the HK version they have tested with.  But overall, it's a great bus to drive.  The only concern is the MPG they get from it, cause it's quite close to the Artic-Bus they are currently having.  Also, one thing that might cause a problem is that riders don't have the concept of leaving their seat earlier at the second level, therefore sometimes it takes a little longer to board and alight..  But I think this is a great bus for inter-county transit options here in the Puget Sound area.  I hope that Sound Transit can also test it.

原帖由 yuenpo 於 2007-12-16 17:42 發表
美國 LA 可以忘掉佢, 咁大又咁散的城市多多巴士都唔掂
三藩市範圍人口多又密,可以考慮
而且佢仲可以考慮引入而家新巴行山頂果隻車去行38 經過的果條隧道

美國有潛質用雙層車大概只有 SF, NY, Seattle, Boston  同埋  ...
art0925 發表於 2007-12-18 04:31 | 顯示全部樓層

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Actually, I think it depends on area, in Seattle, definitly used double decker for long-haul route because of the size and also they are more stable.  for downtown seattle, i would rather have the NFI Artic-bus (but at least have 3 doors, vs the 2 doors in King County Metro) then using the double tall...because somehow riders are not trained to board/ alight fast enought on a double decker...and riding a NFI 60FT at I5, can be quite uncomfortable...

原帖由 DC5 於 2007-12-17 00:07 發表


發達國家中,美、加及阿聯酋係雙層公交車的新興市場。以Dennis的設計,可以吸引部份營運者購買。

點都好,雙層車都係主力行Downtown範圍及市區-市郊的主幹線,而sub-urban線,交比New Flyer, Nova Bus。 ...
manlok 發表於 2007-12-20 01:50 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 art0925 於 2007-12-18 04:27 發表
I think AD definity know that the NA will be a great market for Double Decker, otherwise, they will not invest heavily on modifying the design to suit the requirement of US and Canada (not only did th ...

Does this imply that the US version is more versatile and offer more protection to passengers and drivers than the HK version..
We all know how Alexander bodies perform in a crash...
art0925 發表於 2007-12-20 04:11 | 顯示全部樓層
Well, all US/ Can transit bus need to pass the Altoona Test, and mandate that there shall be minimal damage to the body when it being him sideway/ front/ back @ 25mph by another vehicle.  Therefore, the body is alot stiffer then HK version, also the body is "I think" Aluminum or Glavanized Steel, rather then steel/ Fiber Glass combo.  Remember the crash @ Las Vegas that totalled one E 500, that E500 body structure was quite sturdy...

原帖由 manlok 於 2007-12-20 01:50 發表

Does this imply that the US version is more versatile and offer more protection to passengers and drivers than the HK version..
We all know how Alexander bodies perform in a crash...
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