(LDN) 倫敦巴士付款問題及問路(另涉london鐵路問題)

原帖由 cn2661_2d32 於 2010-1-4 13:09 發表
*師兄 ...
*睇來真係省唔少錢. 求就求神拜佛Tube唔好爆大鑊.上個禮拜睇完報紙真係心都離一離.

琴晚又開通頂搞架mm2巴士,所以未訓...
香港渡假? 就快啦 ...等緊d機票特價...

放心啦,唔會好容易爆大鑊的,
大吉利事,如果咁都比你撞中你都真係.........

講真,聖誕機票成8000銀,
又要prep考試加essay
點都等淡季先番
今次我張機票4千幾我都嫌唔夠平
舊年easter避正日的票,3千五咋唉.

*望就咁望.咁都撞得正就名中注定.唔該炸散我算喇.唔好斷手斷腳唔死得.

原帖由 wrightap 於 2010-1-5 01:44 發表

smal兄提供的方法都ok唔正常架... (正常人唔會用的方法)
其實全坐巴士都可以去到機場,不過預最少3小時去玩...
令外,tfl d 意見方法同時間參考下就可以,唔好盡信...

I really appreciate you spot out the quickest route but it might not be the most appropriate route.
Actually, most of the Londoners do switch to Westbound Piccadilly line in King's Cross instead of Green Park, especially when carrying heavy luggage. Yes, I agree Green Park will have available seats at the front and at the rear of the train during off peak hours, but there are normally lack of spaces for luggage. Moreover, Heathrow T123&5 trains tend to be more packed compare with the Rayners Lane branch and Heathrow T4&123 trains. Therefore it is advisable for passengers to switch in Kings Cross St Pancras if possible, otherwise it is likely that passengers will need to stand next to their luggage all the way to Hounslow.
Look, there must be a reason behind why TfL would divert passengers to a busier station instead of Green Park.
* It’s just a suggestions, so Wrightap, please don’t be so aggressive to everyone in the forum.

師兄,首先小弟多謝你appreciate小弟,不過小弟無aggressive任何人...
你引用的對話中,小弟無意思去指責smal兄的方法,
只係用講笑的態度去形容smal提供的方法的確係普通人多數唔會用的方法,
小弟知道smal兄提供的方法唔係出自佢本人,所以真係要aggressive/取笑的話都唔係smal兄本人....

令外,小弟提供的green park轉車法係小弟以本人第一身經驗去提供,
小弟唔知tfl會點比見議d passengers去機場,樓主已經表明由euston出發
到最後的選擇依然取決於樓主....
kings x 還是 green park 都一樣坐到去機場,但有快的方法點解唔用?
就係d人聽哂 tfl d  suggestions 所以先搞到kingx cross咁多人...

Rayners Lane / hillington/uxbridge 的班次無記錯基本上係5-10分鐘一班,
但northfield/heathow 係10分鐘內一定有3班-6班車,當中t4,123 同123,5係一半半...(work day為準)
(因為由acton town all stn to rayners lane/uxbridge的乘客可以在acton town轉車...

令外,passengers 未必要到Hounslow先有位坐,到左hammarsmith/acton town已經可以有半車位坐...

最後,師兄你都識講:[It’s just a suggestions],小弟講的都只係提供一個最快的方法比樓主,
無意去aggressive任何人,如果有阿哥覺得小弟aggressive左佢的話,小弟樂意表示歉意.

[ 本帖最後由 wrightap 於 2010-1-6 04:10 編輯 ]

Tfl係我點set都點我行去Euston Square坐tube..
路線我唔記得左喇.唔上TfL都再check喇.
同埋我的確係想要個轉得最少車的方法. wrightap兄的方法比我去Paddington坐HC都唔慢得幾多,
我估計我到時應該都係走呢條線.至少原來真係平咁多.

*另外.張新買的Oyster Card終於都寄到來,係pay and go.
同個人版收費有冇唔同?

原帖由 cn2661_2d32 於 2010-1-6 12:54 發表
Tfl係我點set都點我行去Euston Square坐tube..
路線我唔記得左喇.唔上TfL都再check喇.
同埋我的確係想要個轉得最少車的方法. wrightap兄的方法比我去Paddington坐HC都唔慢得幾多,
我估計我到時應該都係走呢條線.至少 ...
*另外.張新買的Oyster Card終於都寄到來,係pay and go.
同個人版收費有冇唔同?

由euston落火車行去euston square已經最快唔見10分鐘,落埋月台加等車又唔見幾分鐘....

不過tfl的見議一定有佢地的計算方法和原因,呢點小弟真係唔清楚....
因為小弟唔識英文,就算問人人地教路都唔識聽.... ,所以好多方法都係小弟自己試出來或行出來...
真係得而且唔比官方的差先會指點下d老友,當然仲要有論據去令人相信....

得罪d講,有時d中國人唔知係唔係來得英國耐,都開始好似有d英國人咁樣唔識變通,唔會用自己的方法去諗,
一味信d比較"權威''的人的說話,佢話乜你就做乜....
(小弟無意思去歧視任何人,亦無指責官方提供的一切方法唔好)


師兄,你係唔係星期六/日上機?
小弟唔記得提你每個星期六/日,如果victoria line有工程的話,victoria line可能會full / part line closure....(呢d亦係tfl比人見議時會考慮的因素之一)

師兄,你唔係londoner梗係買pay and go 啦,
咩個人版收費?(英文名係咩?)

題外話....london d  車費由2010年1月1日開始又加左價... ,一個月又要比多十幾鎊.... ,過兩日又到期renew...

[ 本帖最後由 wrightap 於 2010-1-6 15:24 編輯 ]

唔知wor oyster果方面.之前聽過某某茂哩話有oyster card係個人版唔同payandgo (我都諗緊.mobile咩), 計peak hour方法唔同.我都唔多信,但即管問下閣下地膽無壞

你問我揀行10分鐘去坐車減15分鐘,定係行少10分鐘但坐多15分鐘,我會揀後者.
TfL真係老點. 不過如果唔係自己試過Euston都係可以去目的地,可能我會跟佢老點.
我認同來左英國一段時間個人都會好似佢地咁死沽沽.好疆化,樣樣都跟程序做事.包冇死但靈活低仲行冤枉路.
個呀嬸話乜野好味wor,加唔加d乜.好, 是但
呢個好d wor..好,是但.
就連以前一直以為Paddington -> HXX係最快,因為果期First Capital Connect訂飛谷緊,好,是旦.咁又坐左佢3-4次
係今次無聊上Trainline...先發現原來可以坐London Midlands代替Virgin Trains,4份1價錢,慢一個鐘
原來仲可以坐巴士去Paddington, 原來坐Tube去LHR唔係想像中用咁多時間同轉咁多車........


*小弟班機係下星期二6點幾的BA. 以前坐開T1/T3的NZ......好少用T5所以都亂左陣腳
今次d時間又要計過晒. 火車唔同左時間同路程,去機場方法時間又唔同左,連Terminal/航空公司同時間都唔同晒.
近來又赶 deadline.個腦真係冇乜時間去諗,先上來煩大家幫手

同埋,唉.算喇.英國有幾可唔加車費. First Bus的Uni Connect (學校唯一生路)半年內加左兩次價喇.
10程套票冇啦啦加左2.8gbp.敢怒而不敢言.Rail Card又到期.
認真大出血.

原帖由 cn2661_2d32 於 2010-1-6 17:49 發表
唔知wor oyster果方面.之前聽過某某茂哩話有oyster card係個人版唔同payandgo (我都諗緊.mobile咩), 計peak hour方法唔同.我都唔多信,但即管問下閣下地膽無壞

你問我揀行10分鐘去坐車減15分鐘,定係行少10分鐘 ...

唔單止 London Midland, 仲有係Marylebone上B'ham Snow Hill既Chiltern Railways, 時間都係多1-2小時, 但好平~~

原帖由 wrightap 於 2010-1-5 20:05 發表
師兄,首先小弟多謝你appreciate小弟,不過小弟無aggressive任何人...
你引用的對話中,小弟無意思去指責smal兄的方法,
只係用講笑的態度去形容smal提供的方法的確係普通人多數唔會用的方法,
小弟知道smal兄提供的方法 ...

saml and myself lived in London before and long enough to know that the Feltham route is actually a fairly common option used to go to Heathrow. The last thing I will suggest anyone to do is changing at Green Park for 2 reasons - 1. It's too much of a walk to change to/fro other lines and 2. There are far too much stairs which makes it difficult if you carry heavy bags/luggages with you. That's not to mention Piccadilly Line is the slowest way from Central London to Heathrow, apart from walking.

There are many trains from Waterloo to Feltham, and then taxi or even the 285 is very quick to Heathrow as well, making it a viable option. However, the most preferred route I personally use is getting a train from Paddington to Hayes, then change for a 140 bus to Heathrow. In the best case I have make it to the airport within 45 mins - not back when you have to stick with a z1-6 travelcard (which won't let you to use Heathrow Connect to Heathrow).

Of course, if you have too much time in your own hands, you are more than welcome to stick with the tube. Just don't whinge when you get stuck at Acton Town.

回Ken兄
剛去睇過,Chiltern Rail唔經小弟身處的SOT站,
其實小弟果度唔係BHam,而在Staffs
係在Man同BHam之間,去兩度各要35-45分鐘.