國泰2010年盈利達140.5億

原帖由 NV58 於 2011-3-11 04:04 發表


Which means the 748 will not fit either, as both are ICAO code F size aircraft. The 748 only receive certain exemptions on using code E taxiways, but it can only fit to the same stands that fit the  ...

After I read the website, I feel surprise actually

They are not likely to be either the Airbus A380 or Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental, with Slosar saying that the carrier's existing orders for Boeing 777-300ERs are sufficient to meet their current long-haul fleet replacement plans

Not likely to be A380 and B748
However, they just order more 77W, 359 and 333 ~

Which aircraft may have more chance to introduce by Cathay then ?
My opinion is
787 ?
787 does not has a big chance (A359 is a mid-aircraft already, 787 is not necessary for Cathay, especially they have 32 orders of 359) ~

More 77W ?
They just order 10 more + 6 order from last year (when they announce to add 359 in their fleet), total 18 new orders already ~

Another type of A350
A350-1000? - not necessary for Cathay as well, due A350-1000 has a similar specification with 777-300ER ~

Therefore, I do not have any idea about that 14 aircrafts are belong which types ~

However, if they want to help KA to upgrade their fleet, another story I can guess
such as A320 and A321 (especially the A320NEO) ~

[ 本帖最後由 AVD1 於 2011-3-11 12:46 編輯 ]

原帖由 AVD1 於 2011-3-11 04:42 發表

After I read the website, I feel surprise actually

This was always the case, despite the illusion of a few - no offence - less informed people. The fact is, the 748 has a fuselage that is longer than the 388 (Which is why Airbus has the stretched 389 up its sleeves in the future). The 748's wingspan has gone beyond the 65m limit of a code E anyway, and the only concession that Boeing got is they do not need airports to widen taxiways in order to operate the type, as the engines are places exactly where the classic 747s are, and thus it is less suspectible to FOD.

原帖由 AVD1 於 2011-3-11 04:42 發表

After I read the website, I feel surprise actually



Not likely to be A380 and B748
However, they just order more 77W, 359 and 333 ~

Thing is, they have ordered the 359s and more 77Ws only mid last year, and that didn't stop them to follow with addition orders of the types. I'd like to think the 14 will be much of the same. 787 is too small, as CX have claimed time and over again, but I think 3510 will have a place in the fleet going forward. That said, I also suspect that A320NEO could be the dark horse - the number sounds a fairly good match to the A32x they already have with KA.

原帖由 NV58 於 2011-3-12 01:58 發表

Thing is, they have ordered the 359s and more 77Ws only mid last year, and that didn't stop them to follow with addition orders of the types. I'd like to think the 14 will be much of the same. 787 is too small, as CX have claimed time and over again, but I think 3510 will have a place in the fleet going forward. That said, I also suspect that A320NEO could be the dark horse - the number sounds a fairly good match to the A32x they already have with KA.

I find a link in Bloomberg
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/20 ... ng-haul-planes.html

(The interview @ Jan 2011) ~

“I don’t see Dragonair becoming a huge operator of narrowbodies,” he said. “The economics of those aircraft are not great.”

Hence, I do not believe CX will help KA to add A320 more in their fleet. Yesterday, I said A320NEO probably has a chance since 748 and 388 are not interest by CX. However, If CX feel the economics are not great when they operate narrowbodies; are they will get A320 more and more ?

原帖由 AVD1 於 2011-3-12 03:36 發表

I find a link in Bloomberg
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/20 ... ng-haul-planes.html

(The interview @ Jan 2011) ~



Hence, I do not believe CX will help KA to add A320 more in their fleet. Yesterda ...

It's not great in economy does not mean they are useless.

KA currently has 16 A320/1s. Bearing in mind that CX/KA has indicated that they are looking for further expansion into China, keeping a small fleet of A320x makes sense as they can be used to open new services, and upgrade existing ones (where appropriate) with 333s cascaded from CX. Going down to 14 probably is a reasonable downside of the narrowbody fleet anyway, as I don't see it has to be a 1-to-1 replacement.

But as I said, I see that only as a dark horse in the running.

Please add a "dream" horse - 777NG. :p

Our plan is to retire our 21 Boeing 747-400 and 11 Airbus A340-300 aircraft before the end of the decade as we take delivery progressively of new generation aircraft that will provide much greater fuel and operating cost efficiencies. This is important both for environmental reasons and from a financial perspective as fuel remains our greatest single cost.

言下之意,咪即係772,773同333到2020年都未使退住?

咁又真係估唔到,CX唔係想唔要772好耐喇咩?

況且到時呢D機部份已經超過20年,照正應該都夠期...

原帖由 tristan 於 2011-3-12 21:50 發表
Please add a "dream" horse - 777NG. :p

咁你又可以睇下呢度:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/20 ... -new-777-model.html

大約就係話而家波音將會暫停新 777-X (又即 777-NG 計劃), 轉為去發展新 737NG 上面 (同 A320NEO 競爭)
事實就係, 如果國泰明知有 777-X 計劃將會起幾年內上台, 就唔會不斷係咁加碼 777-300ER ~

所以所謂 "dream" horse - 777NG 應該冇可能會係個 14 架訂單 ~

原帖由 yylee 於 2011-3-12 23:23 發表


言下之意,咪即係772,773同333到2020年都未使退住?

咁又真係估唔到,CX唔係想唔要772好耐喇咩?

況且到時呢D機部份已經超過20年,照正應該都夠期...

咁始終國泰有咁多架 777-300ER (如果佢黎哂已經有 46 部), 又有 32 部 A350-900, 仲有一大部份 333
同埋飛長途線返到黎香港都會飛短途線攝時間, Regional 方面我又唔擔心 ~

772 國泰係想出售, 但係冇人要咁解
333 舊 o既已經不斷過檔 KA, 去 replace 佢借返黎個批又冇 PTV o既 A333 啦 ~

原帖由 AVD1 於 2011-3-13 04:57 發表

咁始終國泰有咁多架 777-300ER (如果佢黎哂已經有 46 部), 又有 32 部 A350-900, 仲有一大部份 333
同埋飛長途線返到黎香港都會飛短途線攝時間, Regional 方面我又唔擔心 ~

772 國泰係想出售, 但係冇人要咁解
333 ...

772(non-ER/LR)既二手市場真係好細.......

其實而家成個CX加KA係缺少左757呢種兩個class約200人載客量既機型
去 fillup A321同 A330中間呢個 gap .
好多大陸既站都係咁,用A321又唔夠載想要加班
但用A330就唔係時時有客
NKG,HGH,XMN都係咁


btw,我真係唔知748i唔可以泊普通既位
咁CX買748-i既機會又細左

原帖由 Oliver_ME16 於 2011-3-13 16:52 發表


772(non-ER/LR)既二手市場真係好細.......

其實而家成個CX加KA係缺少左757呢種兩個class約200人載客量既機型
去 fillup A321同 A330中間呢個 gap .
好多大陸既站都係咁,用A321又唔夠載想要加班
但用A330就唔係時 ...

問題係 A330 可以有更多 o既 CARGO 空間 ~