[車務討論] 3/11 城記係咪派出 22xx 行 A22 咁肉酸? (內有建議)

原帖由 leolaw 於 2011-11-7 13:18 發表
其實唔係話計唔計較個行李架,

要分清楚, 果句純粹係用來教導 / 點醒一D,
以為 "非巴士迷就唔識分貴價車同平價車有分別",
仲以為自己有資格判斷普羅大眾既心理聯想特質...的那一群.

唔介意 =/= 唔識分辨 =/= 貴價 ...

I know this counter-argues your standpoint and you may not be satisfied with this
but you have to admit that it is true in the majority case.
and wont you think what you said before, like "the passengers will think that 22xx running A series routes is 肉酸", is a kind of "判斷普羅大眾既心理聯想特質" too?
Then you are just doing the same of what you blame us...

原帖由 leolaw 於 2011-11-7 01:17 發表
最後, 駛唔駛我捕一張 A22 與 E23 一同到站既相片,
給那些 "講心理" 既人士體驗一下 "視覺官感"?www.hkitalk.net7 L5 Y* U) O) S9 I0 V
畢竟都...體諒: 純文字 VS 睇相, 傳達意思&效果可以很不同.8 p5 O7 N, f; C6 Y/ K7 o5 u
純文字...確實係比較難誘發想像.

Well, I see this happen in Jordan all the time, so?
I dont really have the ""視覺官感" you always emphasize, then how can you force me to experience this?
You dont have enough supporting argument to persuade us and now you blame us not believing you,
wont you think this is very unfair to us?

原帖由 leolaw 於 2011-11-7 09:59 發表
都係果句, 請你先做一次, 響佐敦道, 登上22xx, 不理佢係行緊A線定E線入大嶼山,
把$39放進錢箱, 你肯咁做, TASTE下果種感覺, 先至好講, 得我一個批評22XX行A線肉酸! ...

Well, Volvo Olympians always run A series departing from Asia Expo in the special occations
These Volvo Olympians even dont have any luggage racks, wifi system, curtain and coach seats
and they charge the same fare (over $30)
Have you heard people complaining about this?

原帖由 teddybus 於 2011-11-7 14:08 發表


Really? Are you sure?
Well, even for me, to be frank, I cant spot out the differences between the seats installed in ALX 21xx and DM 21xx
Wouldnt you think you have slightly exaggerated the ability ...

對於o係機場返工而日日搭Cityflyer o既常客,
佢地分到個位窄o左又有咩咁奇...
起碼我家人(機場上班)同埋我都遇過A線搭客話依架車D椅咁窄唔好坐(指2101-2110).
派架頂腳o既半豪躉落去我就唔信D乘客會感受唔到分別.
而我自己就喜歡ALX flyer多少少, 一來數目少, Lazzerini座墊厚D同埋避震好D.

再講城巴機場A線特別設計了另一個logo、車長制服、車隊色彩、獨立站牌,
都顯出A線應該係要帶俾乘客另一種premium service,
就好似機場快線.

原帖由 KR4210 於 2011-11-7 14:27 發表

對於o係機場返工而日日搭Cityflyer o既常客,
佢地分到個位窄o左又有咩咁奇...
起碼我家人(機場上班)同埋我都遇過A線搭客話依架車D椅咁窄唔好坐(指2101-2110).
派架頂腳o既半豪躉落去我就唔信D乘客會感受唔到分別.
...

Well, that means there is a main criteria for normal people having ability in distinguishing these two seats: working in airport and commuting by Cityflyer every day.
The point is: do majority of people work in airport and take Cityflyer every day?
I trust you know the answer.
Then, for normal people who are not taking Cityflyer every day (which is the majority I am quite sure), it is very reasonable not knowing the difference between seats on ALX 21xx and DM 21xx respectively.
You are right Cityflyer should provide better service with coach seats and other superior equipments, but it doesnt mean you need to exaggerate or make up some facts which obviously doesnt match the common sense.

原帖由 teddybus 於 2011-11-7 14:39 發表


Well, that means there is a main criteria for normal people having ability in distinguishing these two seats: working in airport and commuting by Cityflyer every day.
The point is: do majority of p ...

我要重申我o既立場,
城巴機場A線派一架半架22XX半豪躉同埋當遇到
特別情況如颱風/博覽館散場線派架普通車我覺得冇所謂,
因為呢D情況不外乎唔夠A車或唔入機場而只作疏導用途.

我亦都同意旅客未必會分辨到ALX 21XX同DM 21XX,
不過就算旅客未必會時常搭Cityflyer,
但當佢地上Cityflyer網站都有介紹A線車隊配備飛機式豪華可調校角度座位+ wifi,
咁搭客都會expect個service有呢兩樣野,
而22XX半豪躉就真係冇得調校座位角度+ wifi, 可算是"貨不對辦".
留意重點我冇話派ALX 21XX行A線係有問題,
我亦都冇話旅客會留意到ALX 21XX同DM 21XX座位呢D細微分別,
我只是想講當常客連ALX 21XX同DM 21XX座位都能分別時,
DM 22XX半豪躉就更加能分得出, 因為半豪躉更加頂腳.

但我就唔認同我邊D論點有以下呢段的意思...
"exaggerate or make up some facts which obviously doesnt match the common sense"
我有邊度係唔common sense?

另外Cityflyer搭客中我唔會覺得機場上班的常客或其他常客會佔少數,
儘管可能旅客比例會比較多D, 例如A21,
而其他大多數A線我會覺得常客同旅客比例各佔一半, 例如A22, A29.

原帖由 KR4210 於 2011-11-7 15:26 發表

我要重申我o既立場,
城巴機場A線派一架半架22XX半豪躉同埋當遇到
特別情況如颱風/博覽館散場線派架普通車我覺得冇所謂,
因為呢D情況不外乎唔夠A車或唔入機場而只作疏導用途.

我亦都同意旅客未必會分辨到ALX 21XX同 ...

I still have doubt on whether the normal passengers can pick up differences between seats installed in ALX 21xx and DM 21xx. If you really meet someone not enthusiastic on buses claiming that they can experience the difference between these two seats, I can only say you are very lucky.  If you assume all passengers have this ability to identify two kinds of seats merely by observation from minority, then I cant think of any descriptive terms besides "ideal" and "unrealistic".  Thats exactly what I mean by "not matching common sense". May I apoogize to you if you think I have offended you but I am just telling my thought on that.

其實新巴用按摩椅50XX做682主力但82成日又40XX又12XX又5090-5103都係一樣...仲討厭, 682班客真係好慘

啱啱有部81XX行E22,應該係市區個D冇行李架,機場線冇行李架會唔會又好肉酸呢?

原帖由 tomchanhk 於 2011-11-8 00:23 發表
啱啱有部81XX行E22,應該係市區個D冇行李架,機場線冇行李架會唔會又好肉酸呢?

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