英國 Chippenham, Birmingham、法國巴黎交通資料數問

小弟計劃稍後去英國及巴黎旅遊及 exchange，在編行程時打算去 Birmingham,
Chippenham, London，以及法國的巴黎。在網上找到一些資料，由於都唔太清楚，
想向各位師兄指教：

1. 問 Birmingham 的交通

小弟一行五人，將會在 Birmingham Int'l Airport 東面的，但未到 Coventry
town 的地方住 6 晚。上網查到 900 號巴士由機場來往 Coventry，班次都
似乎不錯 (不過 off peak 就半粒鐘一班)。但如果五個人拎住五大喼行李咁樣搭
巴士，有冇問題？

另外，由於除左 stay o係果個地方住，我地亦要一行幾人去附近 country club 既
會議場地 exchange (果處應該冇公共交通到達)。加上週末或空檔時間都打算會出返
Birmingham City 順道遊覽，如果五人夾錢租車渣有冇著數？現時英國油費大約
幾錢一升？當地泊車費又貴唔貴呢？

2. 問 Chippenham 的交通

返倫敦之後，會 stay 一段時間。早排睇報紙見到介紹有一個地方叫 Chippenham
Castle Combe，可以由 Paddington 搭火車去既，所以計劃其中一日去果處睇睇。

上網查到，Chippenham Town 交通係由 Wiltshire Council 統籌，而在報紙相中
亦睇到有關來往 Chippenham Station 到 Castle Combe 的巴士係由 Coachstyle
營運 (cross-check 資料冇錯就應該係 35/35A 號線巴士)，班次相當惡等，基本上平日
只得 4 班車 (星期日直頭唔開)...

[有冇站友係邊度搵到 35/35A 呢條線收幾多錢? 我上網搵唔到資料...]

有關時間表：
http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/nwbt-chippenham-grittleton-services-35-35a.pdf

如果我由 London 出發，買平火車票去到都要接近中午。假如離開 Castle Combe
既時間係超過下午 5 點，當地鄉郊易唔易搵到 (或者有冇) 的士服務？

極端情況：英國興唔興截順風車呢回事？

有關旅遊地點 (取自前幾日既 am730)：


3. 法國巴黎的巴士服務

小弟會跟朋友住 15 區 Tram Line 3 沿線，在當地玩幾日，當然會去熱門景點。
有冇朋友搭過當地的 Balabus？如果想以搭巴士方式去遊覽巴黎有冇其他選擇？

以及，我見到巴黎有 Paris Visite (Visitor Pass) 賣，亦有 Ticket t+ 多程車票
出售，唔太明兩種車票有乜分別，亦唔太睇得明當地的轉乘服務。如果我搭巴士轉
地鐵，又或 RER Line B 轉電車，Ticket t+ 係計一程定兩程車？

我見 Ticket t+ / Paris Visite 亦有分開唔同 zoning 出售，如果最後一日要黃昏
離開巴黎，經 Paris Nord 搭 RER Line B 往機場，果一日到底買日票抵d，定係
去機場果程另外買單程票呢？

4. 尋找 MCW

想問問英國仲有邊度有 MCW 巴士服務？如果尋找佢地既蹤影難唔難呢？


希望各位師兄唔好怪小弟問題複雜或者唔 make sense，因為只想編好行程睇更多既野。

先謝解答。


[由於內容可能涉及鐵路系統交通，但主要偏重巴士服務。如果站務認為不適合貼在本版，請另行告知。]

[ 本帖最後由 WR309 於 2012-4-7 21:29 編輯 ]

1. 900 will be a push. The route is operated with Tridents and although the front wheel arch can be used (unlike HK) as luggage space, they have no other dedicated space for luggage otherwise (other than the wheelchair space if it is not occupied by wheelchair/buggies), and will not cater luggage for 5 people in one go. You are much better off being on a train from Birmingham International to Coventry, which runs frequently.

As you have not specified which country club you are going, I cannot comment the transportation in around that location. However, West Midlands have an excellent transportation network and very well served by buses and trains, so there is no need for a hired car to get around that area - I would argue it makes it more difficult instead. Nevertheless, you will have to pay extra for additional drivers in a hired car. And current fuel price is not cheap either, standing at circa £1.40 per litre for petrol or about £1.50 for diesel.

2. Taxis are usually available outside the station, but it will only be good to get you there, but not the way back. The normal thing to do is order a cab in advise. In fact, if you were thinking about hiring a car for Birmingham, why not doing so for this purpose instead? It's so much easier for the amount of people you have.

Anyway, if you need information for public transport info, this is the website to go for:

http://traveline.info/

Hitch-hiking is not an option to consider in this country.

3. The posh way is of course the open top sightseeing buses operated by L'Open Tours or Les Cars Rouges. However, the public transport network, that is the underground and suburban railway services, are easily understandable enough to get around places.

The Visite ticket is basically a tourist travelcard, which allows unlimited travel, and discount entry to some museums on specific day(s) or purchase. Ticket t+ is just a book of 10 single tickets which can be used by anyone in the party i.e. you can share it with your friends. The catch is that when you make a connection on different mode of transport, you need to use another ticket. So in your example, if you change from the underground to a bus, you have to use two tickets, in the same way that you have to pay twice in HK.

The is another type of tickets called the Mobilis, which is essentially a travelcar, just like the Visite ticket without the museum offers and obviously cheaper:

http://www.ratp.fr/en/ratp/c_20595/mobilis/ (In French)

During my previous visits I basically use the Mobilis ticket if I know I have to get around places a lot, and keep a book of t+'s as backup. What you'll end up finding is that you will spend more time walking around, and the t+'s will likely to be enough most of the time.

4. Hardly nowadays. There are odd ones used as school buses in Coventry and Leicester, but none are used in regular services nowadays.

Thanks for your answer first, I've now got a clear picture about this.

1. Noted Rt. 900 is operated with Tridents.  However, I think we will not consider taking trains to Coventry, as we still have to change for the bus to our destination afterwards.

Actually we will go to Forest of Arden Hotel and Country Club for exchange & meeting.  The fuel price seems nearly the same level as HK if it is at £1.4 per litre now... @@"

2. That's a good suggestion for us, I will try to advise my friends, to see whether they are interested to go there too.  After searched for the driving route, it is around 100 miles per single trip if driving driving from Birmingham to Castle Combe, and with free parking facilities.  Searched for some more information on the web, few more miles nearby is the Lacock Abbey, where used as a location in film productions (e.g. Harry Potter).

Noted hitch-hiking is not preferable in the UK.

3. See, may be I will try to use Mobilis ticket (Zones 1-2) plus t+ during my trip.  Can I purchase this type of ticket by using TVM at Metro stations?

BTW, RER-B CDG railway station is located at Zone 5 (or within a special fare zone)?

4. Noted.

[ 本帖最後由 WR309 於 2012-4-8 12:48 編輯 ]

原帖由 WR309 於 2012-4-8 12:45 發表
Thanks for your answer first, I've now got a clear picture about this.


3. See, may be I will try to use Mobilis ticket (Zones 1-2) plus t+ during my trip.  Can I purchase this type of ticket by using TVM at Metro stations?

BTW, RER-B CDG railway station is located at Zone 5 (or within a special fare zone)?

3. t-10係售票機即可買到
呢度有好多種唔同既pass, 睇下有邊樣啱你
http://booking.parisinfo.com/z6200e2x26827m466g2603_uk-tour-ticket-paris-visit-pass-transport.aspx

CDG 係 zone 5

原帖由 WR309 於 2012-4-8 12:45 發表
Thanks for your answer first, I've now got a clear picture about this.

1. Noted Rt. 900 is operated with Tridents.  However, I think we will not consider taking trains to Coventry, as we still have t ...

900號線本身客量不低，我自己乘坐的經驗，最誇張那次星期六下午在Bull Ring Market
一個站上爆，然後Coventry Road沿途飛站，到BHX也沒上客直走；
而且West Midland一帶的司機普遍對超載比較捉得緊，巴士甚少上到「頂閘」，皆因過了
法定客量就不會上客；
如果你們一行五人連行李，遇著繁忙時間上車會比較困難。

原帖由 neosan 於 2012-4-8 17:12 發表
3. t-10係售票機即可買到
呢度有好多種唔同既pass, 睇下有邊樣啱你
http://booking.parisinfo.com/z6200e2x26827m466g2603_uk-tour-ticket-paris-visit-pass-transport.aspx

CDG 係 zone 5 ...

Thanks... 但 Mobilis ticket 售票機買唔買得到?

原帖由 ML29 於 2012-4-8 18:10 發表

900號線本身客量不低，我自己乘坐的經驗，最誇張那次星期六下午在Bull Ring Market
一個站上爆，然後Coventry Road沿途飛站，到BHX也沒上客直走；
而且West Midland一帶的司機普遍對超載比較捉得緊，巴士甚少上到「頂閘」，皆因過 ...

明白，我會諗諗點處理呢個問題...
我上網搵料，亦見到 Rt. 900 有陣時仲落單層 ... 假日班次應該 ok 密

原帖由 WR309 於 2012-4-10 20:15 發表

明白，我會諗諗點處理呢個問題...
我上網搵料，亦見到 Rt. 900 有陣時仲落單層 ... 假日班次應該 ok 密

這樣反而可以比較放心，900其實甚少出單層，除非臨時有壞車要在廠抽車出去行
(試過壞車在Coventry廠臨時拉了一部O405N來支援)，否則如無意外也是出Trident，
間中用B7TL。

原帖由 WR309 於 2012-4-10 20:15 發表

Thanks... 但 Mobilis ticket 售票機買唔買得到?

Yes

但係要留意巴黎D售票機好難操作..

原帖由 neosan 於 2012-4-11 00:06 發表


Yes

但係要留意巴黎D售票機好難操作..

看過有關 youtube demo 售票機點用，要按幾個掣先可以轉到英文...
而且，佢地唔係用 touch screen，有點麻煩。

多問一個問題，我見巴黎北站 (Paris Nord) 除左有 RER B 去機場，仲有 350 號巴士線，收費為 3 程 t+，比火車平多多聲。
有冇站友搭過要幾耐到 CDG?

原帖由 WR309 於 2012-4-12 22:05 發表

看過有關 youtube demo 售票機點用，要按幾個掣先可以轉到英文...
而且，佢地唔係用 touch screen，有點麻煩。

多問一個問題，我見巴黎北站 (Paris Nord) 除左有 RER B 去機場，仲有 350 號巴士線，收費為 3 程 t+，比火車平多多 ...

官方話45-60分鐘, 我就未坐過..
其實RER舒服D又一程過.. 上次去貪得意買左張Navigo黎用