再有熱狗車長不適

原帖由 edhong 於 2011-8-9 11:35 發表
駕駛室最大問題係果個熱喇喇會噴熱氣既水箱
尤其係 Dennis 車出左二十幾年都係無改善

嘩，如果真係咁嚴重，咁難頂，司機們唔識反映﹖
大量司機伸冤影響工作，行車安全後(渣渣下會熱到不適) ，咁仲買Dennis車 ﹖
巴士公司喜歡和員工作對嗎﹖

原帖由 38．HKT．138 於 2011-8-10 20:46 發表
其他咯
我都建議你睇清楚我講過咩野先好回
我係話未聽聞過有電車車長工作期間過熱不適需要送院
要講個客我點知佢係咪通完頂/訓三幾個鐘再去完淺水灣曬完太陽再出中環坐電車所以中招者 …
又或者佢飲唔夠水
無人提過無客系電車車廂內過熱不適需要送院
最後
知道自己邊個職位就做返個職位應該做既野/預防事物
我識既好多電車車長都係保持自己夠訓，飲夠水，帶水，買凍水，站頭入站長室涼下，平時做運動keep下fit，強身健體等，人地渣十幾二十年都係咁
出事既巴士司機我唔知佢平時生活習慣如何，事實係佢一個出事完全無足夠努力代表非空調巴士不適合於香港道路上行走

Then why did the tram drivers make that complaints on getting heatstroke while driving in the tram too? Do you want to say I saw something that doesnt exist?

I find that what you say is really inhumane. The fact is the passenger got fainted on the non-a/c buses and tram with the symptom of getting heatstroke. How can you blame this suffered by tracing back what he/she did in previous days? Do you have any clues or evidences proving what you say match the fact? If not, you are just guess and you better be humane while making guess. Heatstroke can still come even if you do plenty of exercise and drink a lot of water... There are lots of people playing sports, they did warm up before, but they still got heatstroke.

And I have pointed out a long time ago that bus and tram are different in nature, at least in the design of cab which some board members including me has illustrated... Whats the point of making comparison on two things which is different in nature merely because of your own interest?   

I didnt mean that non-a/c buses is the sole factor, but they have to bear part of the responsibility, and while other factors are constant and unable to change, what we can do is to reduce the factors that is much easier to adjust, which is non-a/c buses, im sorry to say...

[ 本帖最後由 teddybus 於 2011-8-10 23:10 編輯 ]

原帖由 38．HKT．138 於 2011-8-10 20:57 發表

嘩，如果真係咁嚴重，咁難頂，司機們唔識反映﹖
大量司機伸冤影響工作，行車安全後(渣渣下會熱到不適) ，咁仲買Dennis車 ﹖
巴士公司喜歡和員工作對嗎﹖ ...

Well, maybe price is one of the major factor.
As I remember there are rumours that Dennis got a lot of orders before they offer lower price...

but anyway this is not related to the topic of heatstroke so Im not going to discuss more on this...

原帖由 38．HKT．138 於 2011-8-10 20:31 發表

阿哥仔，開龍係新出牌巴士嗎 ﹖第一日出街就有司機中招 ﹖
行左十幾年，問題係咁嚴重巴士公司就應該做下野吧

乜而家司機出事新聞作出黎嫁? 無啦啦要屈九巴全冷?
你知唔知呢幾年條街熱左幾多?

原帖由 38．HKT．138 於 2011-8-10 20:31 發表

阿哥仔，開龍係新出牌巴士嗎 ﹖第一日出街就有司機中招 ﹖
行左十幾年，問題係咁嚴重巴士公司就應該做下野吧

成日數以前, 而家同以前已經有好大分別.....
除左無咁多冷氣巴外, 都無咁多私家車同高樓大廈啦....
正正就係近年問題嚴重左, 巴士公司的確應該做野, 就係淘汰熱狗...

原帖由 GP5737 於 2011-8-10 23:13 發表


乜而家司機出事新聞作出黎嫁? 無啦啦要屈九巴全冷?
你知唔知呢幾年條街熱左幾多?

我都覺得熱呀
我響今年7月28日搭左FZ6723行73A,行到去大窩至太和之前都好塞車,又比太陽照住,真係幾辛苦
如果對巴士無興趣既,真係唔奇佢地要冷氣..

原帖由 teddybus 於 2011-8-10 23:25 發表


成日數以前, 而家同以前已經有好大分別.....
除左無咁多冷氣巴外, 都無咁多私家車同高樓大廈啦....
正正就係近年問題嚴重左, 巴士公司的確應該做野, 就係淘汰熱狗... ...

如果今時今日咁熱既天氣早響1988年出現,你估九巴會唔會立即將DX2437量產化代哂幾千部熱狗??

見到有人反對全冷的原因係因為自己鐘意熱狗，仲講到好似司機中暑係司機抵死咁，我真係想問佢究竟有冇人性架？

既然佢認為司機中暑只係因為司機身子弱，咁我擺佢係一個零下四十度的地方佢凍僵o左，我可唔可以話佢廢柴所以凍僵？做人切忌做唔返轉頭！

原帖由 38．HKT．138 於 2011-8-10 20:57 發表

嘩，如果真係咁嚴重，咁難頂，司機們唔識反映﹖
大量司機伸冤影響工作，行車安全後(渣渣下會熱到不適) ，咁仲買Dennis車 ﹖
巴士公司喜歡和員工作對嗎﹖ ...

有錢人... 出去見識o下真正的世界啦，唔好成日將自己埋藏係自己的世界裡面！公司同員工作對係好出奇的事嗎？公司見到多司機投訴Dennis車又如何？Dennis車比其他廠平就自然吸引巴士公司買佢啦，講真公司堆大頭會理下面班人點熬法咩？尤其香港的階級觀念更加disable班高層的惻隱之心。

我夠膽講就算我依家做政府，上面班光板都唔會點care我呢d做細的處境，做細的好多時唔係特登將黑的東西變白，而係要盲目忍受公司/部門的麻木政策囉！

[ 本帖最後由 E60 於 2011-8-11 01:38 編輯 ]

原帖由 EH9097 於 2011-8-11 00:43 發表

如果今時今日咁熱既天氣早響1988年出現,你估九巴會唔會立即將DX2437量產化代哂幾千部熱狗??

You are right, by making inference, it could be possible, but anyway 1988 is passed already and it is no longer meaningful to make such assumption...

原帖由 38．HKT．138 於 2011-8-10 20:57 發表

嘩，如果真係咁嚴重，咁難頂，司機們唔識反映﹖
大量司機伸冤影響工作，行車安全後(渣渣下會熱到不適) ，咁仲買Dennis車 ﹖
巴士公司喜歡和員工作對嗎﹖ ...

其實我就未聽過 奧林比安系列響中暑問題出現大單野...
MCW 同 Dennis 就有時聽聞.
(MCW出事時, 75K 好似係一架冷馬都未有既, 冷馬少, 熱車多既年代)

有d有 guts 同有性格既司機, 的確試過...當公司主動由吉偈 olympian
更新做康偈龍時 "拒絕", 換唔成, 不過, 時間係2000-2002年,
距離剛出牌時已經有6-8年. 就算員工意見上達高層, 亦為時已晚...

冷馬方面, 其實...只係得 Dennis 同 Leyland 有冷氣車既 E牌 / F牌銀柱年代,
銀柱 AD (最起碼乘客位置) 係非常夠凍, 夏天時車窗外側係一行 "到汗水",
呢個係玻璃溫度遠低與車外空氣溫度的結果! 就算外面幾晒, 車內仍然夠凍...

當然, 去到司機位, 就可能係 "頭頂凍", "腳就熱" 既冰火感覺...
不過, 去到可調校風咀 / 3AD 既時代, 已經不復頭批AD既冷凍度, 司機位係唔夠涼...

Anyway, 感覺上去到 ATR 時代都係比起 3ASV 熱...
當然去到依家, ATE 都算係改善左.