RX1322_284
發表於 2023-3-7 12:29
FBI2 發表於 2023-3-7 12:25
而家大家都食花生等緊九巴拎個數據出來,如果九巴唔肯拎,就係九巴輸,如果九巴肯拎,而又証明到出觀塘需 ...
睇怕都好難交到咩數字出嚟🤭 而家去大圍班人都唔係搭85,甚至唔會81K轉80K 88K,可能811轉東鐵
YouTime
發表於 2023-3-7 12:33
RX1322_284 發表於 2023-3-7 12:20
又國安又既得利益,講咗咁耐咩官方數字都冇,民間就俾咗調查數字出嚟啦。講到尾都係$10.8呢個數字最吸引, ...
直接叫巴士公司同國安合作,邊個反對就用國安法對付(忠廢除外):lol:lol
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2076
發表於 2023-3-7 12:45
Snoopy@FB8617 發表於 2023-3-7 12:01
其實而家沙交個propose背後係直頭想why not both
繁忙時間有觀塘車滿足通勤需求
再加85食埋區內需求
88X 平田果單真係笑死。另一邊的穗禾都一齊玩膠......
當然,88X 的確有半日時間係廢線。妥協方案可以係 88X 得半日上穗禾,另外半日就 85 上。問題就會變左車務要 85 / 88X 互跳,如果唔係又係私上私落山。
dennis28a
發表於 2023-3-7 12:51
RX1322_284 發表於 2023-3-7 12:29
睇怕都好難交到咩數字出嚟🤭 而家去大圍班人都唔係搭85,甚至唔會81K轉80K 88K,可能811轉東鐵 ...
咁依個係重點黎,行落山 1.8-3.8 落到大圍。
就算唔行,811 轉火車只係 6.9,
倒轉上山只係 6.9-8.6,但做緊咩野班次?
(記住,新翠都有 2 蚊機)
而家大家賭一舖,85 拉上山,
係火車手上搶到幾多客返黎,依條數真係無人有。
我唔排除條數真係好龐大,可能支持大圍線既人從黎無錯。
我絕對唔會質疑穗禾有落大圍需求,
但拉上山,你班友要搭先得嫁。
dennis28a
發表於 2023-3-7 12:59
Snoopy@FB8617 發表於 2023-3-7 12:01
其實而家沙交個propose背後係直頭想why not both
繁忙時間有觀塘車滿足通勤需求
再加85食埋區內需求
而家個現實係早繁山上只能擺得一條 30 分鐘車。
當 85 8 點 - 9 點半要減到 30 分塞到上山,
沙交日日提 88X 兩繁特車根本多餘,邊有位?
但自己又識講穗禾會局限山上班次增幅。
係 Why not both 既,一定要搞 81K、280X。
epsilon
發表於 2023-3-7 17:38
本帖最後由 epsilon 於 2023-3-7 17:42 編輯
dennis28a 發表於 2023-3-7 12:51
咁依個係重點黎,行落山 1.8-3.8 落到大圍。
就算唔行,811 轉火車只係 6.9,
倒轉上山只係 6.9-8.6,但 ...
咁點解砂膠唔向居民做問卷,如果拉85上穗禾後會點樣搭車去大圍/九龍城,
如果拉88X上穗禾後又會點樣搭車去大隧/觀塘?
而又可以冇數據之下,一口咬定85有用過88X?
ccchhhuuunnn
發表於 2023-3-7 18:13
HR1377 發表於 2023-3-7 08:03
798拉上穗禾苑用唔到12.8米
屎水唔會咁蠢砍跛自己隻腳
有得爭嘅單層都派啦
何況嗰0.8米
Ricky403
發表於 2023-3-7 19:08
九巴要交數據其實都係交去海庭
策劃班人都係打份工,先懶得理可唔可以打臉沙交呢啲小學雞野
而家咪等海庭決定點搞,但呢排海庭行事似乎係唔會點考慮居民利益;P
正如之前幾個站友都提過,要求改可以,但小心越改越差
RX1322_284
發表於 2023-3-7 19:18
epsilon 發表於 2023-3-7 17:38
咁點解砂膠唔向居民做問卷,如果拉85上穗禾後會點樣搭車去大圍/九龍城,
如果拉88X上穗禾後又會點樣搭車 ...
多數居民想要85,咪已經係證明85有用啲嘅數據,問卷或者民意調查先天就有其侷限,邊有可能問得哂所有嘢
s3n370
發表於 2023-3-7 20:12
dennis28a 發表於 2023-3-6 16:44
早係一年前,沙交同當區區議員提出反建議,
運輸署同紅巴係有聽過意見,亦一早拎左 81K 同 85 / 89 轉乘數 ...
其實八達通賣得個人資料,點會無得賣穗禾落大圍,
利用唔同公共交通工具嘅客數丫。
呢D交通數據不涉個人資料,完全合法。
除非你話呢班人個個俾現金啫。
就算未有八達通,各大公共交通機構一樣做到客量統計。
係要用多D人手咁解啫。